Bhagavat Saptah: a week with a saint

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Please, please, just try to tolerate. This sickness, the nature of the sickness is very nicely described in the pages of Bhagavad-gītā. You just come to Bhagavad-gītā. That is the real medicine and real direction.


mātrā-sparśās tu kaunteya


āgamāpāyino 'nityās

āḿs titikṣasva bhārata

[O son of Kunti, the nonpermanent appearance of happiness and distress, and their disappearance in due course, are like the appearance and disappearance of winter and summer seasons. They arise from sense perception, O scion of Bharata, and one must learn to tolerate them without being disturbed.](BG 2.14)
In two lines, the nature of sickness is described, in the third line what is our duty that is described, in the fourth line the remedy is given. But we don’t have time; we don’t have eyes to see our own scriptures. And that’s why we worship these scriptures. Bhagavad-gītā or Bhāgavatam , we worship. See here, m
ātrā-sparśās tu kaunteya, because we have excessive sense gratification and we have senses, I have the hand. Hand is a sense, so I can feel whether it is cold or hot. śītoṣṇa-sukha-duḥkha-dā. Śītoṣṇa, whether cold or hot, I can feel and I may be enjoying the heat or cold and suffering from heat or cold dukhadah. They always give us misery. Now this nature of sickness is, agamapayino ‘nityas. It comes and goes.

Yesterday I told you, that you have come you are going to go away. Just we have to feed you prasadam and you will be out. Now if I want to drag you out, now then there will be resistance, you will say, “No it’s my right to sit here”. So this is what we do. Immediately we want to have the medicine to stop it. As soon as you stop it, it will become adamant or some after effects are there. And this is then what we have to do. Those who come, they bound to go. Sickness also comes, it is to go. Therefore tāḿs titikṣasva bhārata you just tolerate for a while. Every misery has its own time. Leave it to Kṛṣṇa and bit tolerate and automatically it will go away. This is Bhagavad-gītā.

Because we are not ready to tolerate, so we take different pills, consult doctors this or that. So much misery we create. As it is, we are suffering and again in this suffering, we create so much misery. And the more outside material you stuff into your stomach the more you lose your health. The ‘chetan’, you know, living force is there. In our body, living force is there very nicely it is known as ‘chaitanya’. Chetanta is there, this living entity which is there in us. [This jiva which is there in us, whose force, its energy is there.] And that is how the blood is circulated, everything is regulated. That is how it is done since last so many years in this body. And we have to make arrangement for this “chetan” to move freely. If you want your “chetan” to move freely, the first thing we have to do, if there is uneasiness, is to stop taking anything, don’t eat anything. That is how. And whenever you feel very hungry, then you can eat. That should be our way. And this is how we can carry on; we can devote more time in here. Don’t feel that, since last two days, I didn’t eat. No just carry on. If you don’t want, carry on, and utilize that time in understanding Kṛṣṇa through the scriptures.

Chapter 15

Seeing Kṛṣṇa through scriptures

We can only understand Kṛṣṇa; can experience Kṛṣṇa through the scriptures. These material eyes “carma chakshu” it is known as. These eyes are made up of skin and these eyes have no capacity to see Kṛṣṇa. It can only at the most see the murthis, Kṛṣṇa’s murthis. Nothing else they can see. But if you really want to see, then you have to develop, you can’t see with carma chakshu, so you have to develop sastra chakshu and through the sastra chakhsu you can very well anubhav, experience, Kṛṣṇa. This is the way we should go.


Be careful about mental concoctions

If somebody tells you, that “I speak, I know about Kṛṣṇa, and daily He comes into my dream and I speak with Him”, it is completely nonsense.


We were in Minneapolis, there was one nice devotee you know, so he was 48 yrs old and he had his wife was 20 yrs old. So they came both to me after the discourse.

“Maharaj, daily Kṛṣṇa comes in my dream and I talk with Him at about 3:30 in the morning. And then He wakes me up like this for Mangla ārati.” [laughs]

So I heard, you know, I told: “This is completely nonsense.”

He was very upset, because he wanted to impress his wife that he is talking to Kṛṣṇa, so his impression went down when I told him this is nonsense.

“No, no… What are you talking? I daily talk with Him.”

I told him, “It is completely lie.”

He was very upset, so he wanted to runaway really, so he paid obeisance’s and went away. I thought that he will never turn up because I did not entertain his dreaming stage, you know. To my surprise next day again he was there [laugh] and then he came to me.

He said “You don’t believe I am talking to Kṛṣṇa”.

I said: “I told you, this is a naked lie, please don’t repeat it again.”

Again he went away very angry. Third day he came for mangala ārati, we perform mangala arathi daily. I was surprised to see him in mangala arati and then he handed out me one cover envelope you know. So I thought he might have written something inside. I opened it, it was 100 dollars. And that day was Sunday or Saturday, I don’t remember, but he was there in the lecture and everything. After that he came again to me.

“You don’t really believe that I don’t talk to Kṛṣṇa.” [laughs]

He thought that his 100 dollars will work on me [Hearty laugh] and I will definitely agree now. As you see, with all due respect you, I was bit mild because of 100 dollars, not that strong.

I told him “See! To be very honest with you, I agree with you to disagree.”

He said, “No..No..; you don’t believe that.”

I told, “Please, you stop this. Nobody talks. You already having illicit connection at your door step, and Kṛṣṇa is that free to come in your dream in this illicit life?”

And then he came to his senses you know.

Somehow or the other people try to do something like this. And we then always just play about in our mental concoctions. And there is nothing, but we think that “I am talking to Kṛṣṇa, Prabhupāda comes in my dream. And this….I get up and I perform mangala arathi.” And he is deep in sleep. But he convinces him, while sleeping also I perform Mangala arati, you know. Please this is completely wrong. Because the real message, except Prabhupāda nobody gives.

Be careful about watering down the confidential pastimes

Everybody will try to drive you to sahajiya mentality’. We can’t do anything about Gopi’s perfection is highest perfection. Gopi’s devotion is the highest one. But we cannot touch it. Our life is completely obnoxious. vikretukama kila gopa-kanya murari-padarpita-citta-vrttih dadhyadikam mohavasad avocad govinda damodara madhaveti. There is a nice verse from there. He says this is the way the Gopis behave. Because “murari-padarpita-citta-vrttih”. Their citta, their mind was completely engrossed in Kṛṣṇa all the time. “murari-padarpita-citta-vrttih”. That’s why they behaved in that way, that in the morning they will try to sell the milk or the yogurt. They will have to tell “dud lo..dahi lo.. dud lo..dahi lo..”   ” So instead of “dud lo..dahi lo….” They will say “Govind lo..Gopal lo..Govind lo..Gopal lo… If you try to imitate, you will be out of your job [laughs..]. Please these are the gopis. They did not think anything about else, always their mind was always engrossed. That is what we have to try. We can’t imitate gopis just, we can go to Vrndavana and you don’t have to put on sarees to become Gopis…or here also … These confidential pastimes are prohibited by Caitanya Mahaprabhu to be discussed in public. And just now I heard one Puri Maharaja was here, I have not seen him so far, but he is quite aged and he also repeated same thing. That these confidential pastimes, please don’t entertain. Our life is completely obnoxious at the moment.

Try to purify your life

Try to purify your life. And it’s a long, long way we are away from Gopi’s devotional service. We will talk when that topic comes. But this is how; please try to engross your mind at least in chanting Kṛṣṇa’s names first. And that’s why we have to chant our rounds, whatever rounds you can chant. Don’t worry, Prabhupāda has recommended 16 chanting rounds. But maybe you are busy, you have to go here and there long way to travel or whatever. You try to chant at least one round and do it sincerely and then slowly increase. Don’t cheat yourself in 16 rounds also, otherwise we just hum about and just waste your time. Chant your rounds properly whenever you are chanting.

Hand out the worries to Kṛṣṇa

Don’t worry that mind goes hither and thither. That is the nature of mind, it is always flickering. So don’t worry about it, but come to this point and you will be rightly guided. This is how from our own existence, we have to create the idea of the spiritual existence. And the easiest way is to chant the rounds .And the worries always come inside, because we are worried about so many things. So this I told that, you please hand over the worries to Kṛṣṇa, as it is He is managing. He is supreme authority. Ultimate sanctioning authority is Kṛṣṇa. And He will definitely do it for you. And please have full faith in this and just go on, on these lines.

Have steady intelligence and listen to scriptures

It is very nicely said, that there is only one we should follow always… vyavasāyātmikā buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana.
vyavasāyātmikā buddhir

ekeha kuru-nandana

bahu-śākhā hy anantāś ca buddhayo ’vyavasāyinām

[Those who are on this path are resolute in purpose, and their aim is one. O beloved child of the Kurus, the intelligence of those who are irresolute is many-branched.](BG 2.41)

Only one intelligence, only one Buddhi. It was asked that, who, how can we follow one. Then in the answer, there is very nice verse. What is it? “eko devo devakī-putra eva. eko devo, ek dev, there is only one God and He is giving His name of the mother, devakī-putra eva, Kṛṣṇa, Eko Devo. “eka śāstra devakī-putra-gītam” Whatever He has sung, is only one Sastra, that’s Bhagavat Gita.

ekaṁ śāstraṁ devakī-putra-gītam

eko devo devakī-putra eva

eko mantras tasya nāmāni yāni

karmāpy ekaṁ tasya devasya sevā

[Gītā-māhātmya 7]


His name is only one mantra. There is only one mantra. [There is only one God, Krsna. There is only one sastra, Bhagavad Gita. Somehow in this world Prabhupāda translated Bhagavad-gītā. Before that there were 400 translations. Since long, don’t know how, in this world Bhagavad-gītā is very loveable by the masses. By all sects of people, Bhagavad Gita is much loved, don’t know why. And this is the truth.]

Perform prescribed duties honestly and keep hearing scriptures

[Hindi] Ek Hi Mantra hi, Ek Hi deva hai Kṛṣṇa , Ek Hi Bhagavat Gita Ssstra hai. Aur pata nahi ye duniya mein.. Prabhupāda ka translation hua bhagavad-gita ka, uske pehale bhi 400 translations hain. Pehele se na jaane kaise, magar duniya mein Bhagavad-gita bahut priya hai logon ko...sabhi sect ke logon ko… Bhagavad-gita bahut priya hai, pata nahin kyon. Aur ye bilkul barabar hai.

[eka śāstra devakī-putra-gītam eko mantras mantra also is one tasya nāmāni yāni and karmāpy eka, there is only one work. tasya devasya sevā. Whatever work we do, that is a service to Him. If we work with this attitude then whenever we work…there are lots of work… all that work becomes good. Honestly we do our all prescribed duties. As soon as you are very keen to perform your prescribed duty very honestly and with a compassionate attitude towards the other living entities, those duties themselves, they become devotional service.

[Hindi] wohi bhakti ho jaati hai..aur bhakti. Aur Bhakti hammne bahut din se suna bachpan me aur abhi bhi bahut der tak humare vaise kalpana bhakti karna hai bhai. Toh mandir mein jaana darshan kar lena paise box me daal dena hai..chalo dekh lo Kṛṣṇa ko aur chale jao. Bhakt ho gaya, bada bhakta.

[That becomes devotional service. I had heard about bhakti since long since childhood or more and we had this imagination that we need to have devotion... So one needs to go to the temple, have little darshan we have to do, drop few paise in the (donation) box, just look at Kṛṣṇa and go …“I have become devotee, big devotee”]
But Prabhupāda has given a very nice translation of bhakti, it is not only devotion, devotional service.
[Hindi] isme kaam karna hai. Aur kaam kaise karna hai? Yeh dekhiye, yeh bacchon nein aapko bula ke rakha hai. Sab prasadam ho raha hai, yeh sab kaam seva aur hamara kaam jo hai, jo prescribed duty hai, asrama ke hisaab se hamare kaam hote hain. Yeh vidyarthi hai to padhai ka kaam, iska padhai ka kaam hai, aap bade ho toh paisa kamana hai, usse bade ho to zara kam kar dena hai. Yah sab hamare asrama ki duty hai. Toh yah kaam bada acchi tarah so ho to yah bhakti hai. kaam chodne ki avashyakta nahin hai bilkul. Kaam chodne se to society bilkul bankrupt ho jayegi. Bahut accha hai ki thode bahut jive isme se nikala aayein. Bahut accha hai woh! Kintu..
[In this we have to work. And how we have to work? Just look these children have called you, have prepared prasadam, this work is service and whatever our prescribed duty is there based on our ashram we have some work. He is a student, so he has the work of studying. If you are older, then your work is to earn money. If you are still older, then we have to reduce earning activity. These are the duty of our ashram. You should do these works very nicely. This is devotion. There is no need at all to leave the work. If we leave work, then society will become bankrupt. It is very nice that few living entities have been able to come out of this. That is very nice, however]…everybody can’t do it, should not do it. But their work, their own prescribed duty should be converted into devotional service.

[Hindi] Yah jeevan jeene ki reet hai. Aur isse jo bhi vipareet kahe ga woh misguide kar raha hai, aisa samajh lena please. Yah sasvat siksa hai. Sabhi sastra yahi kehte hain..

[This is way to lead one’s life. And whoever is saying otherwise is just misguiding, please understand it this way. This is eternal lesson. All sastra say this Sthane Sthithaha].
You be situated in your own situation.
And only you have to do, sthāne sthitāḥ śruti-gatāṁ tanu-vāṅ-manobhir (SB 10.14.30).
[Hindi]….khali sunte rahiye bas. Aapke pas tape records hain, CDs hain, nahin to aapki bana lijiye, aap hi sloka boliye, aap ke hi CDs bana lijiye, aap hi ke record, tapes bana lijiye. Aur wohi suniye. Aap, jab samay ho, to Bhagavad-gita Bhagavatam ke purports padiye aur wohi suniye.
[… only keep listening. You have tape records, CDs, if not make your own, you recite slokas and make your own CDs, make your own recorded tapes and you listen to those. When you have time, read the purports of Bhagavad-gītā and Bhāgavatam and listen to that.]


Just keep on hearing. Nothing else. Jaise suno ge vaise aap karne lag jao ge. As you hear, so you will start doing. So make it a point you will always hear about Kṛṣṇa. And if you do that, then nothing will deter you from your devotional service.

[Hindi] koi kuch nahin kar sakta… aur jiski umar ho jai, Dasarath Maharaja ne ek saphed baal dekha tha aur Ramji ko immediately coronation karne ka irada kar liya tha inhonne. Ki mera samay ho gaya hai ab, ab putra ne rajya karna hai. Hamara sara matha safeed ho jata hai, to bhi chabhi hamare paas rehati …(laughs) arre kahe ki chabhi latak rahi hai … bole … hamara saman rakha hua hai…(laughs) …. Please, please…thoda bahut… bacche bade hote jayein to inko tang na karein, muh band kar lein aur bhagavan mein jyada mann laga lein.

[Nobody can do anything. And those of you who are aged, [can take example from] Dasharath Maharaja [who] had seen one white hair and had immediately decided to coronate Ramji.

“That now, my time is over. Now my son has to take over”.

Even if our whole head hair becomes white, we continue to hold the keys. (laughs)

“O, what for you are carrying the keys?”

They say “Our possessions are kept here” (laughs) ….

Please, please…if the children grow up, then don’t disturb them, shut your mouth, and fix your mind on Bhagavan more.]

This is the practical matters to be driven out of these discussions.

[Hindi] Aur itna ho jai ki ek ke taraf hamara mann lag jaye, to hamne ye samajh lena hai, ki ek mein se hi ye sab utpann ho raha hai. Its only one. Nahin woh perspective rehta hai, jo ye painting karne wale log hote hain na…
[And this much may happen that our mind be attracted towards one (God), then we have to understand that from “one” everything is being created. You have this perspective. Suppose you are painting a road, the road also goes to one point and actually there is no point. But it appears the road goes to one point.
[Hindi] Ke bazu mein ped hote hain, to ped bhi aise doooor milte dhikhte hain ek point se, aur ek point se ….. [The trees around also appear to be meeting at a far distance at a point and from that point….You have this perspective.]

Chapter 16

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