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Day 4


Chapter 24

Understanding Detachment

[The following lecture on the 4th day of Bhagavat Saptahah given by His Divine Holiness Srila Mahavishnu Goswami Maharaj recorded on 2nd October 2001 in Sydney, Australia.]

 

Om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya

Om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya

Om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya

 

[Maharaj requested devotees to chant the 15th Chapter of Srimad Bhagavad Gita – As It Is - Purshotham Yoga – “The Yoga of the Supreme Person”.  One mathaji recited all the slokhas of Chapter 15th along with Maharaj everyone repeated the slokas]



 

HARE KṚṢṆA HARE KṚṢṆA KṚṢṆA KṚṢṆA HARE HARE

HARE Rāma HARE Rāma

Rāma Rāma HARE HARE

 

Jai Srila Prabhupāda Ki Jai!!


Importance of recitation of Sanskrit slokas

 Nice kirtan we had and nice recitation also.  These as we have already seen, Sanskrit slokhas, we may not understand it but even then, the recitation of Sanskrit language itself has its hypnotic effect and without understanding the slokhas we dont understand the purport of it. So please don’t hesitate to understand, if you don’t understand even then you should continue to recite. We will recite four verses from Bhagavad Gita again and they are very simple, please start from Bhagavad Gita so that you have a taste of Sanskrit language.

 

[Maharaj made everyone to recite after him, the four seed verses from Bhagavad Gita – 10.8 to 10.11]

śrī-bhagavān uvāca


ahaḿ sarvasya prabhavo

mattaḥ sarvaḿ pravartate

iti matvā bhajante māḿ

budhā bhāva-samanvitāḥ

 

mac-cittā mad-gata-prāā bodhayantaḥ parasparam



kathayantaś ca māḿ nityaḿ

tuṣyanti ca ramanti ca

 

teṣāḿ satata-yuktānāḿ



bhajatāḿ prīti-pūrvakam

dadāmi buddhi-yogaḿ taḿ

yena mām upayānti te

 

teṣām evānukampārtham



aham ajñāna-jaḿ tamaḥ

nāśayāmy ātma-bhāva-stho

jñāna-dīpena bhāsvatā
[Bhagvan said]

[I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.
The thoughts of My pure devotees dwell in Me, their lives are fully devoted to My service, and they derive great satisfaction and bliss from always enlightening one another and conversing about Me.
To those who are constantly devoted to serving Me with love, I give the understanding by which they can come to Me.
To show them special mercy, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance.] (BG 10.8-11)

 

Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa



Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma

Rāma Rāma Hare Hare – (2)

 

[Maharaj feelingly recites the first few slokhas of first chapter of first canto from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam]


janmādy asya yato 'nvayād itarataś cārtheṣv abhijñaḥ svarāṭ

tene brahma hṛdā ya ādi-kavaye muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ

tejo-vāri-mṛdāḿ yathā vinimayo yatra tri-sargo 'mṛṣā

dhāmnā svena sadā nirasta-kuhakaḿ satyaḿ paraḿ dhīmahi (2)

[O my Lord, Sri Krsna, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Sri Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmaji, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Sri Krsna, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.] (SB 1.1.1)
dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsarāṇāḿ satāḿ

vedyaḿ vāstavam atra vastu śivadaḿ tāpa-trayonmūlanam

śrīmad-bhāgavate mahā-muni-kṛte kiḿ vā parair īśvaraḥ

sadyo hṛdy avarudhyate 'tra kṛtibhiḥ śuśrūṣubhis tat-kṣaṇāt

[Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhagavata Purana propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are fully pure in heart. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. Such truth uproots the threefold miseries. This beautiful Bhāgavatam, compiled by the great sage Vyasadeva [in his maturity], is sufficient in itself for God realization. What is the need of any other scripture? As soon as one attentively and submissively hears the message of Bhāgavatam, by this culture of knowledge the Supreme Lord is established within his heart.](SB 1.1.2)

nigama-kalpa-taror galitaḿ phalaḿ

śuka-mukhād amṛta-drava-saḿyutam

pibata bhāgavataḿ rasam ālayaḿ

muhur aho rasikā bhuvi bhāvukāḥ 

[O expert and thoughtful men, relish Srimad-Bhāgavatam, the mature fruit of the desire tree of Vedic literatures. It emanated from the lips of Sri Sukadeva Gosvami. Therefore this fruit has become even more tasteful, although its nectarean juice was already relishable for all, including liberated souls.](SB 1.1.3)
Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa

Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare

Hare Rāma Hare Rāma

Rāma Rāma Hare Hare

 
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and Bhagavat Gita shows the way to Kṛṣṇa


Then in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, the nice way to go to Kṛṣṇa is described.  All living entities being part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa they hanker after to go back to their father.  And He is extra merciful to us to take us back.  But it is in between us and Him, there is external energy involved. Some or the other saints, sages, all the mahajanas from the beginning of this creation, they are insisting that external energy being a very temporary thing by its intrinsic nature it is painful and we can’t change the nature of that potency.  But the same time this scripture insist and all the great persons they follow it.  In order to look after these creations there are different officers appointed by Kṛṣṇa. And all these officers are empowered by Him and because of this they understand that if we have to stay here then there is no other way to be bit satisfied or blissful unless we follow the instructions.

 

Understanding the temporary nature of material existence


Very nicely said before we go to the slokhas which give the royal road to go to Kṛṣṇa we should understand the futility of our own existence and at the same time we should very clear about the temporary nature of everything in the material existence. Even now this idea of the temporary nature doesn’t sink into our brains, and that’s why again and again the hammering is required and these hammerings successfully done by the pages of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, etc.  Bhagavad-gītā we should always have with us. Please keep some small copy, nice Gorakhpur copies are available for 3-4 rupees in India you know. Here also we can send you, always please those who can read Sanskrit so they can read.  Otherwise try to copy it in English and always keep it with you.  Bhagavad-gītā will give you everything.

Understanding the permanent


It is very nicely said in the scriptures that:
asmin vaye bharata varshe

surabhi deva sanskruti

sva katham shravanam pusaam

nishphalam janma kirtitam
nishphal – useless. Our birth becomes completely useless if we don’t hear it at least some glorification of the Supreme Absolute Truth – Kṛṣṇa. That’s is the only permanent thing.
aham evāsam evāgre

nānyad yat sad-asat param

paścād ahaḿ yad etac ca

yo 'vaśiṣyeta so 'smy aham

[Brahma, it is I, the Personality of Godhead, who was existing before the creation, when there was nothing but Myself. Nor was there the material nature, the cause of this creation. That which you see now is also I, the Personality of Godhead, and after annihilation what remains will also be I, the Personality of Godhead.](SB 2.9.33)

He gives in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, He says aham evāsam evāgre, āgre means before the creation.  Before this creation I was existing.  aham evā – certainly, only I and I means person, unless He is a person how can He say I. This is the established reality in the scriptures.  We don’t have to carry on any research. We doubt His existence and that is the way we are getting destroyed. Because we doubt His existence, that’s why our miserable condition is daily at our door step.  As soon as we recognize Him aham evāsam evāgre He says, before this creation I was existing, with this creation I am existing.  matta paratara nānyat[BG 7.7] There is nothing else existing.  This is the reality and paścād, after annihilation of, this whole thing is working on time scale. It has it set time, the same way our body also set time we have and the time is ticking out. We know push button we have in the hall ways somewhere, you push the button for a while the light is there. So the button is ticking out so till that time you have to go out or come in or open your door or whatever. So eventually the button will be completely ticking out and the light will go off.  The same condition we are in.  So He says asmin vaye bharata varshe – those we have got lucky to have the birth in bharath varsh, the whole planet is known as bharath varsh. We will see how it is known as Bharath varsh. Those who have taken birth in this sva katham shravanam pusaam. If they don’t try to hear anything about Supreme Absolute Truth Kṛṣṇa and realize Him through the pages of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam or Bhagavad-gītā then nishphalam janma kirtitam this birth is completely useless. 

moghāśā mogha-karmāṇo

mogha-jñānā vicetasaḥ

rākṣasīm āsurīḿ caiva

prakṛtiḿ mohinīḿ śritāḥ

[Those who are thus bewildered are attracted by demonic and atheistic views. In that deluded condition, their hopes for liberation, their fruitive activities, and their culture of knowledge are all defeated.](BG 9.12)
This is our condition. moghāśā we are completely baffled in our hopes. mogha-karmāṇo, all our fruitive activities are defeated. We try to do so many things and everywhere the defeat is there. 
parābhavas tāvad abodha-jāto yāvan na jijñāsata ātma-tattvam

yāvat kriyās tāvad idaḿ mano vai karmātmakaḿ yena śarīra-bandhaḥ

[As long as one does not inquire about the spiritual values of life, one is defeated and subjected to miseries arising from ignorance. Be it sinful or pious, karma has its resultant actions. If a person is engaged in any kind of karma, his mind is called karmatmaka, colored with fruitive activity. As long as the mind is impure, consciousness is unclear, and as long as one is absorbed in fruitive activity, he has to accept a material body.](SB 5.5.5)

 Unless you come to ātma-tattvam the realization of your own supersoul who is 24 hours a day situated in your own heart “ātma-tattvam”, parābhavas tāvad abodha-jātoabodha-jāto we are completely ajnnaan about this. We are ignorant and because of lack of the inquiry into our own spiritual nature and the nature of the supersoul we are “paraabhava”, always defeated. And “parābhavas” meaning of this word is “parā” “parā” you are separate, and because you are separate you are in “bhava” you are in the material existence.  

What are the types of temporary detachment?

As soon as you come back to Him through the names and through the slokhas, Bhāgavatam and etc., till the time you are together.  Till the time you develop the detachment with the material atmosphere.  We are discussing daily till the time we feel that O! Yes it’s correct.  This is detachment here.

And again we are detached when somebody dies and we see him burning.  Here may be some beautiful box is there to put the dead body in but in India we are very simple.  We can see the dead body and he is tied with the string you know on bamboo sticks and four people will carry and after death also we are so adamant that the people are chanting “Ram bolo bhai Ram”. He says “For you it’s alright, for me no.”  Because the whole body is tied but the neck is bit open. So when they carry they say “Ram Bolo Bhai Ram” “no no not for me.”  You are alright, even death also we don’t take it. [Maharaj laughs].  That’s why for the whole life we are in Australia.  Sri Rāma is in India, not for me, not for me.  In box you can’t see whether neck is out or not, but India is very nice you know. Death in India is best.  Here you die and immediately you are taken to the hospital. Hey man I don’t know why?  When he is alive you could have taken to the hospital, no, no postmortem.  After death also they will not allow to rest in peace, they will cut here and there, you are vegetarians what type of stomach you have.  Your stomach will be hanged somewhere, your lungs will hang because you don’t smoke, and so let me see your lungs.  So your lungs are exhibited somewhere – this was of non-smoker you know. [Maharaj laughs and everyone laughs]. And then they sew you something up and come on get out and we thought Chandulal is back.  Chandulal is not, Chandulal is hanging everywhere. This is the tragedy of the modern civilization. Please that’s why Bharat Varsh death is also good.  Once you are dead, nobody would care.  Come on take him off and burn him off.  And we may see and then we realize that time again detachment is there.   As we have detachment in Hari katha more than that we have detachment when we see the body burning and we have unknown idea unknowingly we are very scared that someday I will also be there.  

Then again there is a detachment, there is a horrible detachment we have and that is the in womb of the mother when we are there.  Particularly after six seven months the consciousness develops and then daily the jantu is praying you know.  We have seen the prayers; please please please, these detachments are very temporary.  Till that time we feel that we have to do something you know but it doesn’t continue as soon as we leave the hall then again the external energy is there.  Husband is there, wife is there, mother is there, bank balance is there, work is there everything is there.

What is real detachment and how to develop it?

These scriptures insist that you please understand your own position and the scriptures are very practical.   For our own upliftment they have very kindly cātur-varya mayā sṛṣṭa [BG 4.13]. Kṛṣṇa says that I have divided your own life into four ashramas and your social life into four varnas and this is how this got to be explained to us. What is our position here?  That is why according to age we are fixed in some ashram and according to our taste of work we are fixed in some varna. This must be clear to us. And as soon as this is clear then may the detachment we can work out and it may remains with us all the time.  If the detachment attitude remains with us all the time then we are not excessively attached and the same time you have to remember that detachment is not the carelessness.  There is a vast difference between detachment and the carelessness. You cannot just go home and tell your wife “No, I don’t want to do anything with you now, I am alright till tomorrow morning until breakfast I don’t want you.”  You can’t. Again for breakfast you go. No, no detachment means the clear understanding that everybody is breathing and we can’t do anything about their breathing.  The breathing is goes on because Kṛṣṇa is very merciful.  Till the time the lungs are working the air is going alright and the blood is purified and everything is going on.  Our machinery we can’t work on our own and we don’t know what is happening inside.  We are not controllers at all.  To understand this and to have subtle remembrance of this not controlling situation is the detachment.  Detachment should force us to perform our responsibilities to the best of our ability but with the basic idea that we can’t do anything. “I am trying to serve and nothing I can do more.  Please Kṛṣṇa look after these living entities and myself also.”  This is detachment.

And this is what develop by katha. sva katham shravanam pusaam if you don’t hear then nishphalam janma kirtitam like a hogs we come back sleep, eat and go away.  This is our condition and should not be repeated at all.  This is the clear understanding of the detachment and the creation of detachment is through the pages of our shastras.  This is a practical thing and as soon as you have the idea of the detachment the same time you are very careful you are not running away from your responsibilities then your life becomes a bit useful somewhere.  Otherwise running away and coming back, running away and coming back the whole life is completely wasted and not only that you are you wasting your life but side by side all living entities are around you their life is also wasted. 
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