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Is the Qouran the God's words

The author : Father Zakaria Boutros

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(Episode 41)
Possibility of criticizing Islam, the quran and Muhammad

And attacking father Zakaria himself

-The broadcaster: we received in our program many questions speaking about the freedom of religion and worshiping and the freedom of criticism and meditation and the possibility of criticizing Islam, lot of authority people spoke about the program of "questions about the faith" broadcasted through Life T.V channel and spoke about yourself Father Zakaria accusing you of attacking the religion of Islam in all its creeds; the quran and the converses , you are even attacking the prophet of Islam Muhammad himself , How do you answer that?

- Father Zakaria: I am glade to answer that
I'd like to ask those challengers why do they consider that program as attacking Islam, while its name is" questions about the faith" , let them remind me one time I attacked Islam or the prophet, tell me when and how and in what episode
All what I had said were from the Islamic books, we are reading them for the viewers to listen to them, nothing more and nothing less than that
The facts may be concealed for the viewer, or he may have limited time to read

Actually those questions themselves are those present in the minds of many Muslim viewers and even Christians, specially the young promising youth, but for a reason or another the Muslim can't express himself , so we are expressing the free thinking and speaking about what already exist in the minds of our beloved Muslims, we are seeking the knowledge and we are motivated by our love to those who are seeking knowledge, that makes us adopting their roles and speaking in their tongues

It is really a good chance for the beloved eminent scholars to answer us and give people answers for their questions, I think instead of challenging us, they should thank us ,as we are opening subjects for them to speak about in order to convince people
Let them come here and discuss with us those things to reach the truth
But if there are no convincing answers, so our questions would have a lethal effect as there are certain unanswered areas
-The broadcaster: Actually I read articles with the same old accusations like; you are Zionists, you are CIA agents and other silly things, we are affirming that we have no connection with any political authority what so ever
- Father Zakaria: I don't know why the challengers are trying to magnify things, telling that there will be a sectarian turbulence, does argument become turbulence? Does inquiring become a crime? Are the free thinking and free expression and meditation considered anxious nowadays? Isn't that among the human rights?

-The broadcaster: We are not used to have free expression in our Arabic world

- Father Zakaria: we are now in the twenty first century; we have freedom granted by laws ensuring the free expression and opinion , I am telling those who are upset from that 30 minutes program, where have they been when Sheikh Muhammad metwaly Al-Sharawy was attacking Christianity and the Christ for long hours? and also others like Dr; Omara, Dr; Zaghlol al-Najjar, Sheikh Omer Abdul Kafy and the author and producer of the film" I love cinema"
Why didn't they say sectarian turbulence? While they accused that enlightening program of causing sectarian turbulence

They are attacking the Christ by degrading him from his divinity, telling that he was just a man , and we are telling that he was the incarnated God , so by saying that he was just a man that's an aspersion in the Christian creed

When they say that your book is falsified that's an aspersion in the Christianity

So when we rebut that, we became criminals…...really amazing!!

What about destruction of churches and killing of Christians, isn't that a sectarian turbulence? What about Al-Koush'?
-The broadcaster: what do you mean by those things; destruction of churches and killing of Christians?

- Father Zakaria: I am speaking about what is happening in the Arab countries especially Egypt, murdering, burning and demolition

Al-Koush', that's a small village in upper Egypt, they stroke them, destroyed their homes, murdered them and court cases have been made, and all of the criminals were acquitted and the Christian victims were jailed? Why? Because the Muslim can't be blamed for a Christian
Why they didn't call that sectarian turbulence?
Why our speaking that's carrying no sward and killing nobody, they call it a sectarian turbulence?
-The broadcaster: what kind of true religion that permits killing and burning?

- Father Zakaria: we say that in the repentance chapter (Surat At-Taubah) 29:" Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his Messenger, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (that's Islam) among the people of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah (tribute) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued"

So killing of the Christians is an Islamic legislation, that's not punishable

-The broadcaster: How could you imagine that God is judging man who is not following Islam ordering to kill him?

- Father Zakaria: here in the program, I'd like to praise the Egyptian adjudication, as in Rose Al-yousef newspaper, edition number 3911 on 30/5/2003 there was an article saying: for the first time Al-Azhar confiscated a book and the adjudication abated the confiscation that court was under the headship of counselor Farouk Abdul Kader, the head of the court

the court verdict came opposing what was mentioned in Al-Azhar report considering it against what is present in the constitution about the freedom of opinion and its availability for everybody and the verdict affirmed that act 47 of the constitution of Arab republic of Egypt states that: freedom of opinion is granted for everyone for expression of his opinion by writing, speaking ,publishing , photographing or any other means of expression

So I am praising the Egyptian adjudication for that

-The broadcaster: Does that freedom really exist?

- Father Zakaria: As long as there is a judicial verdict it is binding for everybody to comply with
It is a nice article in Rose Al-yousef in two pages, so the sun of freedom is rising; we hope that it will fill the whole world
So after that verdict, is there a risk from our free dialogue and questions in that program in the life T.V?
I personally don't see in that program any attacking to any religion, but it is an invitation for logic thinking and searching for the truth
The truth is not restricted to someone, but it belongs to everybody, and it is the right of everybody to search for the truth and to embrace it without fear of authorities or the terrorism of bigots
-The broadcaster: Dear viewers, the number of viewers of the program is increasing day after day, we are receiving many questions from new viewers, and I'd like to offer them to you

  • A question: can any one inspect the holy books especially quran?

- Father Zakaria: A nice question, I remember that I answered it before, but I will answer it again, as I know there are increasing number of millions of viewers watching the program in the Arab countries and Europe

There was an article in Al-Ahram newspaper on Saturday may 11, 2002, about the conference of the Islamic research congregation, held by Al-Azhar"under the title" This is Islam" held between 16-18 of April 2002
About it, the writer Mr. Ahmed Ragab the editor of Sandouk Al-Donia {the world box} wrote conveying a letter came to him from the counsellor; gamal Al-Din Mahmoud the ex- general secretary of the high counsel of Islamic affairs and ex deputy chief of countermand court he said: Sheikh Abdul Moa'z Abdul jabar, one of the proselytisers having experience moved and had a strong speech in front of the conference, he proposed to judge the texts of the holy books including the quran

So for answering the previous question I am saying that Sheikh Abdul Moa'z Abdul jabar had reached a further dimension, he reached to judge the texts of the holy books

We are neither judging books, nor inspecting books, nor condemning books but we are just reading and asking questions for the sane thinker human to ask
-The broadcaster: so we can ask and it is not unlawful?
- Father Zakaria: absolutely not, the Christ said:" You search the Scriptures carefully because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. Yet they testify about me".
A religion is saying to you ask and search, but I am wandering how does the quran is saying "don't ask about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble"
One is saying search and they testify for me, and the other one is saying don't ask, that's a question
-The broadcaster: another question about the prophet of Islam Muhammad is it of everyone right to inspect the personal life of the prophet Muhammad, isn't that considered humiliation to him?

-Father Zakaria: Dr; Aeisha Abdurrahman Bent Al-Shate', she is a professor of the high studies of the quran in Al-Qarawieen university in Morocco , she said in her book " "women of the prophet" page 7,8 :" hiding the news about the personal life of the messenger is not accepted by the honesty of research ,and it is commanded by the noble quran that was keen to mention that life to show the humanity of the messenger , so I couldn't avoid speaking about what was not avoided by God, about the prophet and his life, so any researcher is not allowed to ignore mentioning it"

She is saying that "in all what I have mentioned about the life of the messenger of God. I didn't see any embarrassing thing to direct the light of research on it, my references for that was the noble quran , the prophetical converses and other Islamic resources in life story and history , which are beyond any doubt concerning the faith"
So the researchers didn't have any embarrassment in exploring the life of the prophet , what we are doing is asking about that life , is that considered offending to Islam?
She mentioned the marriage of the messenger to the child Aeisha, while she was 6 years old, and he married her while she was 9 years old, and his marriage to zainab, the wife of his adopted son and others
And not only Bent Al-Shate' but there are lot of books about the prophet life story and the true converses books as Al-Bokhary and Muslim, all of them mentioned those things very clearly , so why we are blamed for offering such questions ?
By the way, I am mentioning here what was said by the Holy Bible concerning asking the Christians: as it said:" always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason concerning the hope that is in you"

-The broadcaster: another question: we heard a recorded tape for one of the church bishops , it is available on the internet on the Islamic sites, and they are playing it regularly in the pal talk chatting program in the Islamic rooms against you father Zakaria and your program, saying that you shouldn't attack the prophet of Islam Muhammad , is that a confession that Muhammad is a prophet? And what do you say about that accusation

-Father Zakaria: I am glade to hear such attack, as the church has no connection what so ever with that program and it is not bearing any responsibility on it, I am bearing alone the full responsibility on it

Concerning his saying the prophet of Islam meaning a confession of being a prophet, that's a very far possibility

I am asking, is offering questions considered a crime?
-The broadcaster: one of the viewers said: I knew about that program and I watched it one time, then I got furious and was about to destroy my T.V, but I just decided not to watch it again, but I found myself on the time of the program opening it & I was watching it regularly thereafter, now after months I am writing to you, thanking you, as I knew the truth, and now I am enjoying my life with the Christ
-Father Zakaria: thanks God, the people are now asking and inspecting to reach the truth, I am congratulating this brother for knowing the truth
Actually the Muslim who listens to the program is shocked initially, but when he thinks he will reach the truth
I don't care about increasing the number of Christians and decreasing the number of Muslims, that's not the purpose and not the case
The case is love for the human soul which was created by God to know the truth for the eternal destiny

(Episode 42)
Multiplicity of quran versions and their discrepancies

- The broadcaster: there is a question; we as Muslims don't have except one quran only so how do you say that there are many qurans , do you mean that they are copies of one quran ?, and what are the Islamic references you refer to?

- Father Zakaria: that's a nice and important question; I'd like to answer it here

The main reference that I referred to is the breviary of the Islamic encyclopedia

The original encyclopedia was issued on 1933 in huge volumes, then a breviary for it was made on 1998, this work was introduced to in part one by his eminence Sheikh Dr. Mohammed Sayed Tantawy, Sheikh of the great Al-Azhar Mosque, he said : the Islamic encyclopedia that was published by the General Egyptian Organization for Books in association with Al-Sharka intellectual innovation center is considered on the top of the scientific projects that guides the minds to treasures of the dignified knowledge

It is really a wonderful encyclopedia; I thank God in the first place, then those who made that encyclopedia

The Islamic encyclopedia was published between the years 1913 and 1936 in three editions, in English, German and French , it was said that: The Islamic encyclopedia is still till our present time the only complete work of encyclopedia on Islam

In part 26, page 8175 it said: the quran text that was accredited by Othman Ibn Affan was just one text among other texts found throughout the first four Hijri centuries, it added: there were other qurans in connection with the companions; they were famous in Al-Basra, Al-Kophah and Al-Sham
-The broadcaster; so there are other qurans in connection with the companions, do you remember the references for that?
- Father Zakaria: the most important reference is the Islamic encyclopedia. It exist in 33 complete volumes from " Alf to Ya'"{A to Z} there are also other books speaking about the differences as Abu-Gaefar Al- Nahas, Al-Itqan (the perfection) in quran science by Al-Syouty and other references , but I recommend the Islamic encyclopedia as it is simple and integral and it is available

Of that different references and resources speaking about the differences between the different qurans, in the Islamic encyclopedia Ibn Al-Nadeem mentioned the titles of 11 research works in that field of the differences between the qurans of them:

- The differences between the qurans of the people of Al-Sham, Iraq and Al-Hijaz (by Ibn Amer Al-Yahsoudy, deceased on the year 118 H)
- The differences between the people of Al-Madina, Al-Kophah and Al-Basra in the qurans (by Al-Kithany)

- The differences between the qurans of the people of Al-Kophah, Al-Basra and Al-Sham (by Abe-Zakaria Al-Faran)

- The differences in the qurans and the collector of the different recitations

In addition to three books all of them having the title "the qurans"the most famous of them is that of: Abu-Dawûd Al-Sagistany, Al-Asfhany and Ibn Al-Kabany
-The broadcaster: what did all of those references say about the differences of the qurans?
- Father Zakaria: the Islamic encyclopedia, page 8176, the second column said: the brief book named "the qurans" by Abu-Dawûd Al-Sagistany, the famous narrator (as he has the famous book of converses named Sonan Abe-Dawûd) includes some thousands difference in the text of the quran
-The broadcaster: where are those differences? All of us know that there is only one quran
- Father Zakaria: Actually there are many different qurans
- The broadcaster: those qurans you mentioned, do they exist now?
- Father Zakaria: Here we have Ottoman's quran and Qualown's quran, about Qualown's quran; it was mentioned in the definition of that quran: it was written according to the narration of Abu- Mosa Ibn Mina, known by the name Qualown, narrated from Obi Ibn Ka'b
-The broadcaster: Is there any difference between that quran and the other one?
- Father Zakaria: there is a difference in the spelling and the grammar, there is also another quran named Waresh quran, on that quran it was mentioned that: It was recited by Imam Nafe' Al-Madny from the narration of Hafs, narrated from Assem Al-Korashy
There was an agreement that Dar Al-Ma'aref Al-shameia will be granted the authority to modify the quran text of the available codex narrated from Hafs, so there are changes in the qurans
- The broadcaster: I learned when I was young that the words of God couldn't be altered, now you are saying that there are more than one quran, here are 3 different qurans

- Father Zakaria: Actually the Islamic encyclopedia , part 26, page 8180 describes those differences saying: there are other differences in the recitations of Muslims of the second generation as Ibn Yazid , Akrama and Khatab , also there were other differences attributed to other minor qurans

About that, Al-Tabry deceased on 311 H, spoke about those differences saying: the quran text was not fixed on my time, here is a witness
What are the opinions of the Islamic scholars about the disputed quran text, and the multiplicity of qurans … 31 qurans?
- The broadcaster: those 31 quran are they available and currently in use?
-Father Zakaria: some of them are available, some others were burned by Othman Ibn Affan, and those are really hidden facts
- The broadcaster: did the Islamic encyclopedia mention some details about those differences?
- Father Zakaria: the Islamic encyclopedia is saying in page 8177: most of that mentioned concerning the differences were between the quran of Ibn Masoud in Al-Kophah and the quran of Obi-Ibn Ka'b in Al-Sham and the quran of Abe-Mosa Al-Asharee in Al-Basra
those qurans started during the time of the prophet as Abdullah Ibn Masoud, deceased on the year 33 H , was a companion to the messenger of God , he took from him 77 chapters of the quran , and one of those promised to enter the paradise
- The broadcaster: it was said the Abdullah Ibn Masoud refused to execute the commandment of Othman to slender his quran, and he refused to give his quran to Othman to burn it
- Father Zakaria: that's right, he fled away, he was at that time on Iraq, and he refused to give his quran to Othman to burn it

The quran of Abe- Mosa Al-Asharee was popular in Al-Basra, according to the encyclopedia he told his followers: when the messenger of Othman arrives , don't cancel any part of my quran even if that part is not existing in Ottoman's quran ,, he added: and if any part exists in Ottoman's quran but not in mine , you add that part to my quran

So the quran of Abe- Mosa Al-Asharee was so huge and included the two extra chapters that are not present in the quran of Obi
-The broadcaster: did the Islamic encyclopedia mention the number of those qurans?
- Father Zakaria: in page 8179 it mentioned the quran of Abdullah Ibn Masoud's, Obi-Ibn Ka'b' and Abe- Mosa Al-Asharee
-The broadcaster: who are those are they the writers?
- Father Zakaria: those are the companions who had their own qurans
It was written also that there are qurans attributed to the twelve companions, the second Caliph Omer Ibn Al-Khatab, the fourth caliph Ali-Ibn Abe Taleb and three qurans attributed to three of the prophet's wives , one for Aeisha, the daughter of Abe-Baker, one for Hafsa the daughter of Omer , and Om-Salma making the total of 8 qurans
Other qurans are those for: Zaied Ibn Thabet, Abdullah Ibn Abbas, Anes Bin Malek, Abdullah Ibn Al-Zoubir, Salem Maola Abe Hozaifa , Abdullah Bin Amre Ibn Al-Ass and Obaid Bin Omeir Al-Laithy
Abu-Dawûd Al-Sagistany added: the quran of Ata' Abe Rabeh ,Akrama ,Moujahid ,Saeed Bin Gabber and the quran of Al-Asoad Ibn Yazid and that of Muhammad Bin Abe Mosa
Also the quran of Talha, Suleiman Ibn Mahran making the total of 25 qurans

-The broadcaster: Amazing!!! You mentioned 25 qurans mentioned in the Islamic encyclopedia and Al-Sagistany, do you have other Islamic references telling about more of those qurans that were existing

- Father Zakaria: Al-Sagistany added also 2 other qurans; the quran of Abu-Zaied, and that of Moaaz Bin Gabel , in addition to the chapters that were written during the time of Muhammad on the bones and stones ,what happened to those chapters?, they are not existing now and nothing mentioned about them in any reference

While he is saying" It is we who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, we will guard it"

There is Also the quran of Abe Baker Al-Sedeek which was assembled by Zaied Ibn Thabet and the quran of Othman Ibn Affan which was also assembled by Zaied Ibn Thabet, in addition to the quran of Al-Hajaj Ibn Yousef Al-thakafy in which he made radical changes

-The broadcaster: I am wandering where had all of those qurans gone …31 qurans?
- Father Zakaria: while there are about half a million converses, had they lost the qurans while they kept the converses? It is a big question
Is it one quran or 31qurans, they are different qurans and not copies
Where had those qurans gone? The simplified Arabic encyclopedia (by Muhammad Shafik Ghorbal) said in page 1187:" Othman had burned all the qurans except the one which he ordered to be distributed and generalized
How did they dare to burn those qurans? They should have left them to the people to inspect and see the differences by themselves
-The broadcaster: that makes me skeptical of the credibility of the quran we have
- Father Zakaria: that's why we are asking Al-Azhar scholars to explain that respecting the mind of people in the twenty first century , How does the Muslim take the basis of his faith on doubts in the quran which is the main reference for him? …31 qurans, nothing left of them but only three
Those are inquires pushing themselves on our minds and we are requesting answers, let they tell us How and Why that happened and clarify things to us

(Episode 43)

The discrepancies in the quran text

In different versions

The Islamic encyclopedia, part 26, and page 8168 said:" there were discrepancies in the text of Ottoman's quran in the copies of Makkah, Al-Madina and Al-Kophah

They were verbalization and dictation errors, there were also copying errors due to inaccuracy of the writers
Ottoman's quran had been sent to Damascus, Al-Basra, Al-Kophah and other cites
The Islamic encyclopedia, part 26, and page 8167 said that:

  • In the copy of Damascus: there were differences in the text as:

- In Family of Imran chapter (Surat Aal-'Imran) 184:"Then if they reject you, so were Messengers rejected before you, who came with Al-Baiyinât (proofs) with the Scripture and with the Book of Enlightenment"

Instead of "Then if they reject you, so were Messengers rejected before you, who came with Al-Baiyinât (proofs) and the Scripture and the Book of Enlightenment"
- The Forgiver chapter (Surat Ghafir) 21:" Have they not travelled in the land and seen what the end of those who were before them was? They were superior to them in strength"
Instead of " Have they not travelled in the land and seen what the end of those who were before them was? They were superior to you in strength"

  • In the copy of Al-Kophah: there were differences in the text as:

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