Jiva-tattva as it is


— ESSENTIAL CONCLUSIONS FOUND IN SRILA PRABHUPADA’S TEACHINGS

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6.6.1— ESSENTIAL CONCLUSIONS FOUND IN SRILA PRABHUPADA’S TEACHINGS
According to Srila Prabhupada, the shastras and the previous acharyas “Vaikuntha is that place from which no one ever falls down” (Srimad Bhagavatam 2.9.10 / 3.16.26 / 6.1.34-36 / 7.1.35 / 10.4.13). The living entity belongs to Lord Krishna’s marginal potency (tatastha-shakti), therefore Srila Prabhupada quotes shastra and the acharyas to explain that he jiva in his original position is pure spirit as a spiritual spark, and as part and parcel of Krishna is constitutionally Krishna conscious. However, to exercise his free will the jiva manifests—and if independently so wishes—falls down to the material world from the tatastha area, or the area of “no touch” between the spiritual and material worlds:
Cc. Adi. 5.22, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “As spiritual sparks of the beams emanating from the transcendental body of the Lord, we are all permanently related with Him and equal to Him in quality. The material energy is a covering of the spiritual spark, but in the absence of that material covering, the living beings in Vaikunthaloka are never forgetful of their identities; they are eternally cognizant of their relationship with God in their constitutional position of rendering transcendental loving service to the Lord.

“One who can reach that abode does not come back to the material world with a material body.

SB.4.22.31, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The soul is said to be lost when there is no proper knowledge exhibited. Our original consciousness is Krishna consciousness because we are part and parcel of Krishna. When this consciousness is misguided and one is put into the material atmosphere, which pollutes the original consciousness, one thinks that he is a product of the material elements. Thus one loses his real remembrance of his position as part and parcel of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just as a man who sleeps forgets himself.”

Bg. 18.78, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The living entity in his original position is pure spirit. He is just like an atomic particle of the Supreme Spirit. Thus Lord Krishna may be compared to the sun, and the living entities to sunshine. Because the living entities are the marginal energy of Krishna, they have a tendency to be in contact either with the material energy or with the spiritual energy.”
Cc. Madhya 22.105, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Because living entities are minute, atomic parts and parcels of the Lord, devotional service is already present within them in a dormant condition. Devotional service begins with shravana
and kirtana, hearing and chanting.”
Cc. Madhya 10.166, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: Brahmananda Bharati wanted to prove that there is no difference between the Supreme Lord and the jiva, whereas Chaitanya Mahaprabhu wanted to prove that He and Brahmananda Bharati were jivas
and that although the jivas are Brahman, they are many but the Supreme Lord, the Supreme Brahman, is one.
Cc. Madhya 10. 168, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Living entities rest on the Brahman effulgence, the bodily rays of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.”
KRISHNA BOOK. CH 89 - The Superexcellent Power of Krishna, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The brahmajyoti is a combination of the minute particles known as spiritual sparks, or the living entities known as chitkana
. The Vedic word so’ham, or ‘I am the brahmajyoti,’ can also be applied to the living entities who can also claim to belong to the brahmajyoti. In the Harivamsha, Krishna further explains, ‘This brahmajyoti is an expansion of My spiritual energy.’

SB 1.18.16, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “So there are many instances in the transcendental histories of the world of an impersonalist who has latter become a devotee. But a devotee has never become an impersonalist. This very fact proves that on the transcendental steps, the step occupied by a devotee is higher than the step occupied by an impersonalist.”

Cc. Adi. 5 Introduction by Srila Prabhupada: “By His internal potency, Maha-shankarshana maintains the transcendental existence of all the planets in the spiritual sky, where all the living beings are eternally liberated souls. The influence of the material energy is conspicuous there by its absence. On those planets the second quadruple manifestation is present. Outside of the Vaikuntha planets is the impersonal manifestation of Sri Krishna, which is known as the Brahmaloka. On the other side of the Brahmaloka is the spiritual karana-samudra, or Causal Ocean. The material energy exists on the other side of the Causal Ocean, without touching it. In the Causal Ocean is Maha-Vishnu, the original purusha expansion from Sankarshana.
Cc. Adi-lila 5.41, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Shankarshana, the second expansion, is Vasudeva’s personal expansion for pastimes, and since He is the reservoir of all living entities, He is sometimes called jiva.

“The Pancharatras state that the personality of jiva called Shankarshana has emerged from Vasudeva, the supreme cause of all causes, That Pradyumna, the mind, has come from Shankarshana, and that Aniruddha, the ego, has come from Pradyumna. But one cannot say that the living entity (jiva) takes birth or is created, for such statement is against the injunction of the Vedas. As stated in the Katha Upanishad (2.18), living entities, as individual spiritual souls, can have neither birth nor death. All Vedic literature declares that all living entities are eternal. Therefore when it is said that Shankarshana is jiva, this indicates that He is the predominating Deity of the living entities.

Cc. Madhya 20.268: “That original Personality of Godhead, named Sankarshana, first lies down in the river Viraja, which serves as a border between the material and the spiritual world. As Karanabdhishayi Vishnu, He is the original cause of the material creation.

Cc. Madhya 20.269: “The Viraja, or Causal Ocean, is the border between the spiritual and the material world. The material energy is situated on one shore of that ocean, and it cannot enter onto the other shore, which is the spiritual sky.”
Cc. Madhya 19.153: “As one waters the bhakti-lata-bija, the seed sprouts, and the creeper gradually increases to the point where it penetrates the walls of this universe and goes beyond the Viraja River between the spiritual world and the material world. It attains brahma-loka, the Brahman effulgence, and, penetrating through that stratum it reaches the spiritual sky and the spiritual planet Goloka Vrindavana.”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Devotional service is specially meant for the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and it is beyond this material range. There is a river, or causal ocean, between the spiritual and material natures, and this river is free from the influence of the three modes of material nature; therefore it is called Viraja. The word vi means vigata (completely eradicated), and rajah means ‘the influence of the material world.’ On this platform a living entity is completely free from material entanglement.”

SB. 2.9.10, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The marginal line between the material manifestation and the spiritual manifestation is the Viraja River, and beyond the Viraja, which is a transcendental current flowing from the perspiration of the body of the Lord, there is the three-fourths manifestation of God's creation. This part is eternal, everlasting, without deterioration, and unlimited, and it contains the highest perfectional stage of living conditions. In the Sankhya-kaumudi it is stated that unalloyed goodness or transcendence is just opposite to the material modes. All living entities there are eternally associated without any break, and the Lord is the chief and prime entity…

“The whole Vaikuntha existence proclaims that everyone there is a follower of the Lord. The Lord is the chief leader there, without any competition for leadership, and the people in general are all followers of the Lord.”

KRISHNA BOOK. CH 89 - The Superexcellent Power of Krishna, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Krishna told Arjuna, ‘the brahmajyoti is beyond the region of My external energy, known as maya-shakti.’ When one is situated within this material world, it is not possible for him to experience this Brahman effulgence. Therefore, in the material world this effulgence is not manifested, whereas in the spiritual world, it is manifested. That is the purport of the words vyakta-avyakta. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said avyakto’vyaktat sanatana’ both these energies are eternally manifested.

After this, Lord Krishna and Arjuna entered a vast extensive spiritual water. This spiritual water is called the Karanarnava Ocean or Viraja, which means that this ocean is the origin of the creation of the material world.”


SB. 10.4.13, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The words janma na eti indicate that these living entities remain in their original, spiritual bodies to enjoy the company of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in the transcendental abodes Vaikuntha and Vrindavana.”
The Harmonist Magazine, VOL. XXIX - March 1932, Page 279, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura answer some queries put by Y. Jagannadham B.A. Pantulu Garu:
Question: “The Location where tatastha-shakti operates; the creation of souls and what makes them either fallen or saved; their nature before maya-shakti.

Answer: “Krishna has got innumerable shaktis of which tatastha claims the intermediate position between chit and achit-shaktis. The pure soul is not created within time, but is ever-existing, unadulterated knowledge and is endowed with eternal bliss. Creation is restricted on the plane of guna-maya. The gunas or Qualities disclose the obscured specification of the Eternity and this Creation, Sustenance and Destruction within Time and Space.

Tatastha has both the eternal power of associating with temporal as well as eternal plane. Souls who have got their stations at tatastha have got free will. Each of the Individual souls by exercising his free will can abuse or properly use his independence. He has got two different fields in two different directions. He may choose one of these for his stage. When he is in an enjoying mood and considers himself identical with the Predominating Object or the Absolute he is said to be fallen, and when he shows an aptitude for serving the Transcendental Predominating Object, he is freed from the clutches of limitation and limited enjoyments and is eternally associated in serving the Predominating. The souls in the tatastha position are not one, but many in number. They are not to associate themselves with unalloyed chit-shakti or unalloyed a-chit or maya-shakti. In tatastha position, souls do not show any activity but they are found to be in indolent state.”

SB. 1.9.18, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The bewilderment regarding Sri Krishna is due to the action of His twofold internal and external energies upon the third one, called marginal energy. The living entities are expansions of His marginal energy, and thus they are sometimes bewildered by the internal energy and sometimes by the external energy. By internal energetic bewilderment, Sri Krishna expands Himself into unlimited numbers of Narayanas and exchanges or accepts transcendental loving service from the living entities in the transcendental world. And by His external energetic expansions, He incarnates Himself in the material world amongst the men, animals or demigods to reestablish His forgotten relation with the living entities in different species of life. Great authorities like Bhishma, however, escape His bewilderment by the mercy of the Lord.”

SB. 1.14.33: “Also, Shrutadeva, Uddhava and others, Nanda, Sunanda and other leaders of liberated souls who are constant companions of the Lord are protected by Lord Balarama and Krishna. Are they all doing well in their respective functions? Do they, who are all eternally bound in friendship with us, remember our welfare?”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The constant companions of Lord Krishna, such as Uddhava, are all liberated souls, and they descended along with Lord Krishna to this material world to fulfill the mission of the Lord. The Pandavas are all liberated souls who descended along with Lord Krishna to serve Him in His transcendental pastimes on this earth. As stated in the Bhagavad-gita (4.8), the Lord and His eternal associates, who are also liberated souls like the Lord, come down on this earth at certain intervals. The Lord remembers them all, but His associates, although liberated souls, forget due to their being tatastha-shakti, or marginal potency of the Lord. That is the difference between the vishnu-tattva and jiva-tattva. The jiva-tattvas are infinitesimal potential particles of the Lord, and therefore they require the protection of the Lord at all times. And to the eternal servitors of the Lord, the Lord is pleased to give all protection at all times. The liberated souls never, therefore, think themselves as free as the Lord or as powerful as the Lord, but they always seek the protection of the Lord in all circumstances, both in the material world and in the spiritual world. This dependence of the liberated soul is constitutional, for the liberated souls are like sparks of a fire that are able to exhibit the glow of the fire along with the fire and not independently.”

6.7— A NITYA-BADDHA-TATASTHA-JIVA IS DESCRIBED AS ETERNALLY CONDITIONED SINCE IT IS BEYOND OUR POWER TO ASCERTAIN ITS BEGINNING. ETERNAL IS THAT WHICH HAS NO BEGINNING, NOR HAS AN END. ACCORDING TO GAUDIYA VAISHNAVA SIDDHANTA THE BONDAGE OF MAYA CAN BE BROKEN (Cc. Madhya, 15.167-169 / 20.144), THUS ALL NITYA-BADDHA-JIVAS CAN FINALLY UNFOLD THEIR SPIRITUAL BODY OR SIDDHA-DEHA (Cc. Madhya, 8.229). ALL JIVAS CAN END THEIR CONDITIONING AT A SPECIFIC TIME IN THEIR ETERNAL EXISTENCE. THEREFORE THE TERM “ANADI” UNDOUBTELY MEANS “TIMELESS (TIME IMMEMORIAL) BEYOND OUR POWER OF ASCERTAINMENT.”
NITYA-BADDHA-JIVA” MEANS ETERNALLY CONDITIONED JIVA, AND IT REFERS TO A LONG STATE OF CONDITIONING OR ANADI (WHICH MEANS “SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL”), OR A PERIOD OF TIME THAT IS BEYOND OUR POWER TO ASCERTAIN IT BEGINNING —NONETHELESS, SURELY IT WILL END. THE CONCLUSION IS THAT SOMETHING, WHICH SURELY WILL END, SURELY HAD A BEGINNING —EVEN THOUGH IT IS IMMEMORIAL TO A NITYA-BADDHA-JIVA.
OBSERVATION

If ‘nitya’ means eternal the nitya-badha jivas can never end their bounding to the material world. Therefore Nitya means that which has no beginning not end. So nitya-baddha means “anadi,” not because it has no beginning, but because it is beyond our power to ascertain its beginning. It can, therefore, certainly end.

Srila Prabhupada’s Letter: (27 Oct 1969)”

“Constitutionally every living entity, even if he is in the Vaikuntha Loka, has chance of falling down. Therefore the living entity is called marginal energy. But when the fall down has taken place for the conditioned soul is very difficult to ascertain. Therefore two classes are designated: eternally liberated and eternally conditioned. But for arguments sake, a living entity being marginal energy, he can't be eternally conditioned. The Time is so unlimited that the conditioned souls appear to be eternally so, but from the philosophical view he cannot be eternally conditioned. Since we cannot trace out when we have become conditioned, there is no use of arguing on this point. Better to take care first how we can get rid of this conditional existence; as much as a patient should take care for treating his disease more, and less waste his time in finding out the cause of his disease.”

6.8— A NITYA-SIDDHA-TATASTHA-JIVA HAVE ALREADY MANIFESTED HIS/HER/ITS SIDDHA-DEHA OR SPIRITUAL BODY. A NITYA-BADDHA-TATASTHA-JIVA IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE LORD AS A SPIRITUAL SPARK, AND CARRY A “SEED”DEHA OR A DORMANT SPIRITUAL BODY. CONSEQUENTLY, A NITYA-BADDHA-TATASTHA-JIVA INHERENTLY CARRIES A DORMANT STATE OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS.
ANY NITYA-BADDHA-TATASTHA-JIVA CAN FALL DOWN FROM ITS DIRECT ENGAGEMENT IN AN ACTIVE AND PERSONAL SERVICE TO THE LORD, PROVIDED IT IS EXCLUSIVELY BEING PERFORMED WITHIN THE MATERIAL WORLD —OR DURING THE LORD’S BHOUMA-LILA. THIS PROVES THAT THE LORD IS TRASCENDENTAL, WHILE THE NITYA-BADDHA-JIVA IS NOT. THE JIVA’S LIBERATION IS BASED UPON GIVING UP ITS NEGATIVE FREE WILL —WHICH PROPOSES NOT TO SERVE THE LORD IN TOTAL SELF-SURRENDER—, AND EMBRACE DEVOTIONAL SERVICE IN FULL KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS THROUGH THE AGENCY OF POSITIVE FREE WILL —WHICH IS INHERENT OR CONSTITUTIONAL WITHIN THE JIVA’S SPIRITUAL NATURE. BY ENGAGEMENT UNDER FULL POSITIVE FREE WILL THE JIVA CAN NEVER FORGET THE LORD, AS WELL AS THE LORD NEVER FORGETS THE JIVA (BG. 8.14 / BG. 18.59 / SB 3.26.6).
6.8.1— THE FORGETFULNESS OF THE NITYA-BADHA-TATASTHA-JIVA IS BASED ON IGNORANCE, WHICH COVERED IT WHILE AFFECTED BY MAYA. A NITYA-SIDDHA-JIVA NEVER FORGETS THE LORD, SINCE HIS/HER “FORGETFULNESS” IS AFFECTED BY YOGAMAYA INSTEAD OF MAHAMAYA. MAYA NEVER ENTERS THE SPIRITUAL WORLD.

Bg. 18.59, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Arjuna was a military man, and born of the nature of the kshatriya. Therefore his natural duty was to fight. But due to false ego he was fearing that by killing his teacher, grandfather and friends he would incur sinful reactions. Actually he was considering himself master of his actions, as if he were directing the good and bad results of such work. He forgot that the Supreme Personality of Godhead was present there, instructing him to fight. That is the forgetfulness of the conditioned soul. The Supreme Personality gives directions as to what is good and what is bad, and one simply has to act in Krishna consciousness to attain the perfection of life. No one can ascertain his destiny as the Supreme Lord can; therefore the best course is to take direction from the Supreme Lord and act. No one should neglect the order of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or the order of the spiritual master, who is the representative of God. One should act unhesitatingly to execute the order of the Supreme Personality of Godhead—that will keep one safe under all circumstances.”

SB 3.26.6: “Because of his forgetfulness, the transcendental living entity accepts the influence of material energy as his field of activities, and thus actuated, he wrongly applies the activities to himself.”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The forgetful living entity can be compared to a man who is under the influence of disease and has become mad or to a man haunted by ghosts, who acts without control and yet thinks himself to be in control. Under the influence of material nature, the conditioned soul becomes absorbed in material consciousness. In this consciousness, whatever is done under the influence of the material energy is accepted by the conditioned soul as self-actuated. Actually, the soul in his pure state of existence should be in Krishna consciousness. When a person is not acting in Krishna consciousness, he is understood to be acting in material consciousness. Consciousness cannot be killed, for the symptom of the living entity is consciousness. The material consciousness simply has to be purified. One becomes liberated by accepting Krishna, or the Supreme Lord, as master and by changing the mode of consciousness from material consciousness to Krishna consciousness.”


Cc. Madhya 8.139, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Since every living entity is part and parcel of Krishna, Krishna is naturally attractive. Due to the material covering, one’s attraction for Krishna is checked. One is not usually attracted by Krishna in the material world, but as soon as one is liberated from material conditioning, he is naturally attracted. Therefore it is said in this verse, sarva-chittakarshaka: ‘Everyone is naturally attracted by Krishna.’ This attraction is within everyone’s heart, and when the heart is cleansed, that attraction is manifested (cheto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam).”

Cc. Madhya 6.160: BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The spiritual potency of the Lord is manifested in three phases—the internal or spiritual potency, the marginal potency, which consists of the living entities, and the external potency, known as maya-shakti. We must understand that in each of these three phases the original spiritual potencies of pleasure, eternity and knowledge remain intact. When the potencies of spiritual pleasure and knowledge are both bestowed upon the conditioned souls, the conditioned souls can escape the clutches of the external potency, maya, which acts as a cover obscuring one’s spiritual identity. When freed, the living entity awakens to Krishna consciousness and engages in devotional service with love and affection.”

Cc. Madhya 8.200, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “All intelligence emanates from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supersoul within the heart of everyone. Non-devotees want to ask the Supreme Lord for sense gratification; therefore non-devotees come under the influence of maya, the illusory energy. A devotee, however, is directed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and comes under the influence of yogamaya. Consequently there is a gulf of difference between statements made by a devotee and those made by a non-devotee.”
Bg. 8.14, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “A pure devotee cannot forget the Supreme Lord for a moment, and similarly the Supreme Lord cannot forget His pure devotee for a moment.”
SB 1.18.16, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “So there are many instances in the transcendental histories of the world of an impersonalist who has latter become a devotee. But a devotee has never become an impersonalist. This very fact proves that on the transcendental steps, the step occupied by a devotee is higher than the step occupied by an impersonalist.”

Cc. Madhya 20.117: “Forgetting Krishna, the living entity has been attracted by the external feature from time immemorial. Therefore the illusory energy [maya] gives him all kinds of misery in his material existence.”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “When the living entity forgets his constitutional position as an eternal servant of Krishna, he is immediately entrapped by the illusory, external energy. The living entity is originally part and parcel of Krishna and is therefore the superior energy of Krishna. He is endowed with inconceivable minute energy that works inconceivably within the body. However, the living entity, forgetting his position, is situated in material energy. The living entity is called the marginal energy because by nature he is spiritual but by forgetfulness he is situated in the material energy. Thus he has the power to live either in the material energy or in the spiritual energy, and for this reason he is called marginal energy. Being in the marginal position, he is sometimes attracted by the external, illusory energy, and this is the beginning of his material life. When he enters the material energy, he is subjected to the threefold time measurement—past, present and future. Past, present and future belong only to the material world; they do not exist in the spiritual world. The living entity is eternal, and he existed before the creation of this material world. Unfortunately he has forgotten his relationship with Krishna. The living entity’s forgetfulness is described herein as anadi, which indicates that it has existed since time immemorial. One should understand that due to his desire to enjoy himself in competition with Krishna, the living entity comes into material existence.”

SB 3.16.24, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The Supreme Personality of Godhead is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha; His form is completely spiritual, full of bliss and knowledge, and it is eternal. Because the living entities are His parts and parcels, originally they also belong to the same quality of eternal form as the Lord, but when they come in contact with maya, the material potency, due to their forgetfulness their existential constitution is covered.”
OBSERVATION

Srila Prabhupada says above that a jiva “also belong to the same quality of eternal form as the Lord,” i.e., that the jiva’s “form is completely spiritual, full of bliss and knowledge.” However, when a jiva “comes in contact with maya, the material potency, due to their forgetfulness their existential constitution is covered.” Obviously, “forgetfulness” is caused by ignorance while affected by maya. Maya cannot affect a liberated jiva since maya doesn’t go beyond the material creation. In their constitutional position a jiva naturally acknowledges Krishna —this is the natural knowledge in the spiritual world—, whereas the ignorance that temporarily would cover the spiritual spark’s constitutional Vasudeva consciousness while in the material world is considered forgetfulness.

OBSERVATION

Srila Prabhupada confirms in several of his purports, that an aspirant devotee can fall down from the direct personal association with the Lord, it is unambiguously described in that such facts only occur while in the presence of the Lord within this material world, as clearly described below. It is important to know also, that a baddha-jiva can forget the Lord from a direct personal engagement with Him while the Lord performs His bhouma-lilas, as in the case of Kala Krishnadas who was obviously NOT fully conscious of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s position and distracted himself from His personal company.

SB 1.14.33: “Also, Shrutadeva, Uddhava and others, Nanda, Sunanda and other leaders of liberated souls who are constant companions of the Lord are protected by Lord Balarama and Krishna. Are they all doing well in their respective functions? Do they, who are all eternally bound in friendship with us, remember our welfare?”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The constant companions of Lord Krishna, such as Uddhava, are all liberated souls, and they descended along with Lord Krishna to this material world to fulfill the mission of the Lord. The Pandavas are all liberated souls who descended along with Lord Krishna to serve Him in His transcendental pastimes on this earth. As stated in the Bhagavad-gita (4.8), the Lord and His eternal associates, who are also liberated souls like the Lord, come down on this earth at certain intervals. The Lord remembers them all, but His associates, although liberated souls, forget due to their being tatastha-shakti, or marginal potency of the Lord. That is the difference between the vishnu-tattva and jiva-tattva. The jiva-tattvas are infinitesimal potential particles of the Lord, and therefore they require the protection of the Lord at all times. And to the eternal servitors of the Lord, the Lord is pleased to give all protection at all times. The liberated souls never, therefore, think themselves as free as the Lord or as powerful as the Lord, but they always seek the protection of the Lord in all circumstances, both in the material world and in the spiritual world. This dependence of the liberated soul is constitutional, for the liberated souls are like sparks of a fire that are able to exhibit the glow of the fire along with the fire and not independently.”

Bg. 15.20, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “While one is performing devotional service in the association of pure devotees in full Krishna consciousness, there are certain things which require to be van­quished altogether. The most important thing one has to surmount is weakness of the heart. The first fall down is caused by the desire to lord it over material nature. Thus one gives up the tran­scendental loving service of the Supreme Lord. The second weakness of the heart is that as one in­creases the propensity to lord it over material nature, he becomes attached to matter and the pos­session of matter.”

OBSERVATION

Srila Prabhupada’s reference to “the first fall down,” is in direct reference to “’the first weakness of the heart’ while performing devotional service in the association of pure devotees in full Krishna consciousness.” As unambiguously declared by Srila Prabhupada already, “A pure devotee cannot forget the Supreme Lord for a moment, and similarly the Supreme Lord cannot forget His pure devotee for a moment (Bg. 8.14).” Therefore, a nitya-siddha-jiva or pure devotee cannot forget the Lord, while a nitya-baddha-tatastha-jiva can forget the Lord even AFTER HAVING surrender personal service to Him in His bhouma-lila. The following reference about Kala Krishnadasa is the perfect example of this particular case.

Cc Madhya 10.65: “Now that I have brought him here, I am asking him to leave. Now he can go wherever he likes, for I am no longer responsible for him.”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “Kala Krishnadasa was influenced and allured by nomads or gyp­sies, who enticed him with women. Maya is so strong that Kala Krishnadasa left Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s company to join gypsy women. Even though a person may associate with Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, he can be allured by maya and leave the Lord’s company due to his slight independence. Only one who is overwhelmed by maya can be so unfortunate as to leave Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s company, yet unless one is very conscientious, the influence of maya can drag one away, even though he be the personal assistant of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. And what to speak of others? The Bhattatharis used to increase their numbers by using women to allure out­siders. This is factual evidence showing that it is possible at any time to fall down from the Lord’s association. One need only misuse his little independence. Once fallen and separated from the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s association, one becomes a candidate for suffering in the material world.”

OBSERVATION

The “factual evidence showing that it is possible at any time to fall down from the Lord’s association,” is OBVIOUSLY referring to the Lord’s association from His bhouma-lila of material world. This example is to show how powerful is maya, and how deep in ignorance is the nitya-baddha-jiva.

The patanavada argument about the nitya-siddhas falling from the Lord’s company in Krishnaloka, as in the same category as the nitya-baddhas in the material world, is so dreadful that sends the subliminal message that —as well as in the material existence— maya also influences the nitya-siddha-jivas in the spiritual world. This false assumption opens up the path to Antipersonalist philosophy.

Cc. Madhya 6.154, BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “The internal potency of the Supreme Lord, Vishnu, is spiritual, as verified by the shastras. There is another spiritual potency, known as kshetra-jna, or the living entity. The third potency, which is known as nescience, makes the living entity godless and fills him with fruitive activity.”

BHAKTIVEDANTA PURPORT: “In the Bhagavad-gita, in Sri Krishna’s discourse on the kshetra and the kshetra-jna, it is clearly stated that the kshetra-jna is the living entity, who knows his field of activities. The living entities in the material world are forgetful of their eternal relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This forgetfulness is called avidya, or nescience. The avidya-shakti, the avidya potency of the material world, provokes fruitive activity. Although this avidya-shakti (material energy, or nescience) is also an energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, it is especially intended to keep the living entities in a state of forgetfulness. This is due to their rebellious attitude toward the Lord. Thus although the living entities are constitutionally spiritual, they come under the influence of the potency of nescience. How this happens is described in the following verse.”

Cc. Madhya 6.155: “O King, the kshetra-jna-shakti is the living entity. Although he has the facility to live in either the material or spiritual world, he suffers the threefold miseries of material existence because he is influenced by the avidya [nescience] potency, which covers his constitutional position.”
OBSERVATION

Srila Prabhupada’s statement “Although he has the facility to live in either the material or spiritual world,” is implying that the tatastha-jiva in the tatastha-shakti is in between both.



Tatastha-jivas manifesting engagement for the FIRST time from the Tatastha area or Viraja River, can chose either side of it. By leaning towards the side of the Tatastha area, which is in touch with the spiritual realm, they are considered nitya-siddha-jivas. If instead, they chose to lean towards the side, which is in touch with Maya, they are considered nitya-baddha-jivas.




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