March 2010/june 2013 multi-level marketing [mlm] this ministry has received several enquiries about multi-level marketing over the past six years. Here are a few that I found in my archives in respect of conybio, dxn and amway: From



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MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING [MLM]
THIS MINISTRY HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL ENQUIRIES ABOUT MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS. HERE ARE A FEW THAT I FOUND IN MY ARCHIVES IN RESPECT OF CONYBIO, DXN AND AMWAY:

From: conrad saldanha To: michaelprabhu@vsnl.net Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: Re: PATIENCE
I forgot to mention that at the retreat which I conducted we had a case of someone whom the Lord helped discern against CONYBIO! Praise the Lord!!! The Lord also seems to have shown him the evil of MLM = Multi-Level Marketing and the deception that is normally associated with it. [Fr.] Conrad, MUMBAI
From: joseph To: info@holyspiritinteractive.net Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: need an answer

I am a Roman Catholic Some time back when I attended a Charismatic Convention in Mumbai, one of the speakers referred to AMWAY as a new-age fad and that as Christians we should not promote them. My wife is very keen that we join AMWAY as a distributor as she is convinced that it is remunerative and will help us tide over financial difficulties we encounter often. Could you give me the correct position and justification for not joining up AMWAY?

God Bless, Joseph D’Souza, MUMBAI

From: Info Desk: Holy Spirit Interactive To: joseph Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: need an answer

Dear Joseph, I have forwarded your mail to Mr. Prabhu, who is very knowledgeable about the New Age Movement. He is most qualified to answer your question. He is travelling at the moment, so you might have to wait a few days for his reply. I truly appreciate your desire to do the right thing by God. May he bless you for it. God bless. Aneel Aranha, DUBAI


From: prabhu To: joseph Cc: Holy Spirit Interactive Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:05 PM

Subject: AMWAY / MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING

Dear Joseph, Praise the Lord. Nice to meet you.

About AMWAY, I generally know something. But nothing that I can latch on to that I can say is bad for Christians. However, I have a unique ministry and I feel that the Lord is speaking to me through this letter of yours forwarded by Aneel. You are not the first person to set off warning bells about multi-level marketing by writing to me [or to me thru Aneel]. A priest too has recently alerted me. But I need to get some printed information to read, and I need to talk to some people. I hope to be able to do that when I go to Bombay next week. If there is anything that you can enlighten me with, it will be welcome.

Could you please tell me EXACTLY WHICH CONVENTION you talk about, the MONTH & YEAR, the LOCATION, the SPEAKER? Your disclosure is sensational! I am sure that the speaker must have done his homework right. Is he Indian? This may be the breakthrough that I am looking for.

Also if you live in Mumbai, could you please give me your address and tel. no? If you would like to have any OTHER info. on the New Age, Alternative Medicine and Eastern Meditations please let me know. Please read my write-up on CONYBIO* which Aneel put up on Holy Spirit Interactive from Dubai. Love in Jesus' Name Michael [NO RESPONSE TO THIS E-MAIL]



PS I am forwarding this by Bcc to a priest and also to a priest-in-making who may be knowledgeable about these things and/or put me onto the right people for further enquiry.

*CONYBIO: THE CONYBIO ARTICLE WAS TO BE FOUND ON HOLYSPIRITINTERACTIVE FROM JUNE 2004

New Age: A Clear and Present Danger: [http://www.holyspiritinteractive.net/features/newage/cancer02_conybio.asp] Conybio by Michael Prabhu June 06, 2004 – HolySpiritInteractive Issue #23


Conybio: What a Con! Holy Spirit Interactive: New Age [see the record in articles CONYBIO, page 5 and BIOCONNED!... page 2], links given by Austine Crasta, Moderator, KonkaniCatholics yahoo group on Sep. 19, 2007.

TODAY, ALL OTHER ARTICLES IN HSI ISSUE NO. 23 OPEN EXCEPTING CONYBIO!!!!!
From: henry quadros To: michaelprabhu@vsnl.net Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:36 PM

Dear brother, We read some of your articles in Streams magazine and we wanted to find out if DXN products have any connection with cults or is it a harmful alternative system because the organisation is world renowned and functions similar to Conybio. We had confusion about this for a long time and we didn’t know whom to ask. After reading your articles we understood that you are the right person to ask these things as your ministry deals with such things.



INDEX ON PAGE 143 READ MY COMMENTS, PAGES 141, 142

Can you please enlighten us on this matter? What worried us was that there is one formula (mushroom powder) for practically every ailment and it is very high priced. Many people all around the world use it originates from East Asian countries. They have a variety of products from tea to lipstick at very high prices. Anxiously waiting for your enlightenment.



Br Henry Quadros

MY RESPONSE: [NO RESPONSE FROM HENRY QUADROS. REMINDER 30.05.06, NO RESPONSE]

Dear Bro. Henry, I thank you for your letter to me and I apologize for the delay in responding to you.

Henry, I do not know anything about DXN* even though I carefully read every magazine that I come across.

Maybe if you post me some literature I can read it and decide.

It could be an MLM [Multi-Level Marketing] thing, like AMWAY for instance. I know one company pushing some tea but it is not occult stuff. The preacher [X.X.] is into marketing it. I myself do not even approve of MLM because I suspect that the principles of MLM operations are not Christian.

If you want more than the abridged stuff that comes in STREAMS, please visit my website. But if you don't have access to the internet, please tell me and I can send you hardcopies of the same. In that case, if you could please tell me more about yourself and the extent of your involvement in the Church and the Renewal, it would help me to know what to post to you. I have many articles which are only in hardcopy and therefore still NOT on my website. Love and Prayers, Michael


*http://www.dxnmalaysia.com/ DXN is a multi-level marketing (MLM) company founded in 1993, based in Malaysia
A QUERY ABOUT CONYBIO IN KONKANICATHOLICS

KONKANICATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 485 QUERY: Is it OK to Use Conybio?

QUERY: Is it OK to Use Conybio? Posted by: "YYY" konkanicatholics@gmail.com  Sunday March 4, 2007

Dear Michael,

I have gone to your site and glanced thru Articles. Noticed CONYBIO. Can you give some insights on this as I was panning in buying some of these items, and like me many must have already or are panning to do the same. Can you please let me know from the Catholic point if it is right the use these items YYY, DUBAI [MY RESPONSE WAS NOT ARCHIVED]

KONKANICATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 486 March 5, 2007

Dear Michael, Thanks a ton for the useful piece of advice. Probably this could be why the Lord was holding me back from buying this stuff. I hope and pray that all my other brothers and sisters who are using this and/or intend to do the same will read this piece of advice and act accordingly.

Michael, I would also like you tell me something about AMWAY products also, my brother is into it and have managed to drag me also, much against mine and my husband's wishes. I am not into it fully (i.e. attending meetings and making more members) just once I have purchased some of their products. Please advise. YYY

Dear YYY, At the JY Conclave in Kengeri, I mentioned that there are three issues on which I lack information, but which are highly suspect. One of them is Neuro-Linguistic Programming or NLP*. I cannot recall the second. The third one is Multi-Level Marketing or MLM. *The article will be available shortly

AMWAY is MLM. I do not know much about it as I said, but there are obviously unChristian aspects to it. One of them is that one has to maintain a split personality, another is the method[s] of selling, but I do not want to commit anything till I have some concrete evidence, preferably testimonies. I have met senior people in ministry who do MLM on the side to make money. My observation: for one thing, they seem to be now depending on their own abilities rather than Providence, and the other is that they talk FIRST and MORE about the products that they are selling than about the Lord and Kingdom work, because they have to sell you something, which is not the Gospel!!!! [And that would apply to me too even if I were not in fulltime ministry.]

One can immediately see that their priorities have changed!!!!! Check out and see what the FIRST thing is- that comes to mind- when one meets someone new. Does one look at him/her as a link in the chain and someone who will enhance one’s position in the group, and also be a source of income to one? I am not saying that it is terribly bad. And I don't want to be accused of being narrow-minded or condemnatory, but for believers it is something worth thinking over in case they have been affected but never realised it. Speaking for myself, I would like that when I meet someone for the first time, I would think of them as God's children whom I might be required to minister to, or be ministered by. Not as prospects for MLM. Sorry I can't do better than that right now. Love, Mike

KONKANICATHOLICS DIGEST NO. 490 March 9, 2007

Hi Michael, Do not know of NLP. But on MLM - I think we should separate the two and keep the line clear. No I am not in MLM. One is business and the other is Gospel. Church and its contacts better kept off this line of activity. Daniel CHENNAI

[Dear Daniel] Interesting reply - Similar to the one, quite often heard 'My faith is between me and My God'.
What happens in such a statement, the very purpose that God chose you ('Go preach, and make disciples') is lost. How can one say he led a good Christian life, if he has not led even one person to know Christ the Saviour?
Similarly business and Gospel, cannot be separated, There are many ways to become rich, being a mercenary means good money, well that is his business, so he keeps the Gospel out of it - forget that the Gospel says, thou shalt not kill? Or a businessman who cheats - that's his way of making money - forget thou shalt not steal? Well truly, we cannot, just cannot separate CHURCH and our day to day activities - We cannot become Christians only in Church. And what Bro. Michael says is right, for every MLM agent, every person he meets becomes a prospective agent, through whom he can profit. God Bless Salvador Fernandes DUBAI, UAE

From: milagres pereira To: michaelprabhu Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: ticket

Michael


What do you think of this? I tried this google search 'Is Amway new age?' And this is what I get.
You know I hear many good Christians fall into this trap of money greed.

http://www.cults.co.nz/a.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway (See AMWAY [From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] pages 4, 5- Michael)


Milagres Pereira, GOA
Artha Tatwa group CMD Sethi arrested

http://mlmclue.com/Newspage.aspx?lblid=317

Bhubaneswar: A special team of Commissionerate Police, which is probing the multi-crore fraud case lodged against the Artha Tatwa (AT) group, arrested the Chairman-cum-Managing Director (CMD) Pradeep Kumar Sethi from his farm house at Khurda Sunday night.


Many incriminating documents, cash and gold ornaments have been seized from his possession. Raids are also being conducted at Cuttack, Puri, Dhenkanal and other places to nab his associates, a senior police official said.
During interrogation, it was found that he has duped investors to the tune of over Rs 200 crore under various schemes. Sethi will be produced in the court of Sub-Divisional Judicial Magistrate (SDJM) here Monday, the official added.

Earlier, the Commissionerate Police did not take any action though complaints piled up against the AT group. However, a case (43/13) was registered on the basis of a complaint lodged by former DIG Sukumar Panigrahi with Kharvel Nagar police Feb 6 under Sections 420, 120(B) and 406 of IPC against 12 AT officials, including Sethi.


According to reports, the company duped people across the State through 13 companies under AT group. The AT officials lured common people through schemes like fixed deposits, recurring deposits, monthly income plans, gold FD plan and trading plan, claiming that the company is certified by the Central and State Governments, RBI, SEBI and other financial institutions.

Investors and agents have alleged that the company has garnered over Rs 70 crore from the city and has collected over Rs 500 crore from over 50,000 investors from across the State.

Abhaya Gold MD arrested

http://mlmclue.com/Newspage.aspx?lblid=319

Vijayawada: Taskforce police arrested Sri Abhaya Gold Company MD Koganti Srinivasa Rao for cheating the investors and public. Since from few years Sri Abhaya Group collecting deposits in the name of real estate and not giving maturities to the investors. This company doesn’t have permission from RBI/SEBI to collect deposits from the public. Police booked the case on the company and arrested. Police will also arrest directors of the company.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mc1xVhIazeY
Maxforexonline directors arrested

http://mlmclue.com/Newspage.aspx?lblid=320

NEW DELHI: The owner of a money circulation company has been arrested for allegedly cheating over 250 people to the tune of Rs 1 crore.


The accused has been identified as Amit Kothari, a resident of west Delhi's Paschim Vihar, who presently lives in Dubai. Kothari was arrested by Delhi Police's Economic Offences Wing at IGI Airport on May 15 while returning from Dubai. His aide Manoj Sharma is still absconding.
Police received a complaint that a company named Maximus Trade Incorporation had launched some schemes in January, 2010 inviting investments from public. They created a website Maxforexonline.biz showing their schemes/plans on the internet.

"The accused represented their company as dealing in the business of foreign currency exchange saying that there is huge margin in the business and their company was exempt from paying income tax etc. being situated in off shore zone. They assured a return of 15% to 20% per month on investments. After collecting crores of rupees, the accused persons closed their website and absconded from their addresses,'' said joint CP (EoW) Sandeep Goel.

Kothari, a B.Com graduate from Delhi University, met Manoj Sharma while he was working for a software firm. Together they hatched a conspiracy to cheat general public and launched the schemes of investments.
Liberty Reserve digital money service shut down, founder arrested

http://mlmclue.com/Newspage.aspx?lblid=322

Costa Rican-based digital currency service Liberty Reserve was shut down on Thursday after the reported arrest of its founder, Arthur Budovsky.


Budovsky was taken into custody in Spain on suspicion of money laundering following an investigation that also involved the US. Police have also raided several of his properties and seized his computer servers.
Central American newspaper the Tico Times reported that investigators allege Budovsky's businesses in Costa Rica were used to launder funds from child pornography websites and drug trafficking.
Liberty Reserve had described itself as being the internet's "oldest, safest and most popular payment processor... serving millions all around a world."

It allowed users to open accounts and transfer money by only providing a name, date of birth and email address. Those and other lax security features made it popular among cyber criminals who wanted to move money and make payments anonymously.


In April 2011, it was discovered that Liberty Reserve customer information was accessible to Amazon. A reported script problem in August 2012 also ended up locking users out of their accounts, some of which had tens of thousands of dollars in them.

And this isn't the first time Budovsky has had trouble with the law. In 2006, the Liberty Reserve founder and his partner, Vladimir Kats, were indicted in the US on charges related to their business, Gold Age. Authorities said Gold Age had illegally transmitted at least $30 million to digital currency accounts, leading to the sentencing of the two men to five years in prison in 2007. The pair only ended up serving probation.

Budovsky then left the US and headed to Costa Rica, where he started his latest business, Liberty Reserve.
MMM INDIA main promoters arrested by Assam Police

http://mlmclue.com/Newspage.aspx?lblid=325

As cautioned public now police arrested MMM INDIA main promoters in India and Russian persons in Assam for cheating.


SO DONT PROMOTE MMM INDIA.IT WILL CREATE PROBLEM FOR YOU.POLICE ARE SERIOUS ON THIS MMMM INDIA OPERATIONS.

GUWAHATI: City Police arrested six officials, including three Russians, for running a money circulation scheme by Mavrodi Mondial Moneybox India or MMM India from a private hotel here on charges of duping several customers in the state.


The three Russian agents were identified as Alexei Muratov, Danis Rosaov and Andre Kilyn. The other three are Dinesh Kotian, Rimish Balan, both Mumbai based officials of the company, and Nabajit Das, a local agent.
Police have booked them under the Prize Chits and Money Circulation Schemes (Banning) Act, 1978 and sections 120 (B), 406, 420 of the IPC. Police are likely to slap IT Act sections too. The police move came in response to a complaint by one Kunal Kishor Singh who registered a fraud case against the firm.
"In the name of charity, these officials collect money from several people of the state. Though their operation in state was at the preliminary stage, they were trying to spread tentacles across the state. They even organized a seminar on Tuesday to lure the investors," said IGP (central western range) L R Bisnoi.
The officials were on their second visit to the state. One of the officials posed himself as a Russian journalist. Police have already seized their belongings.

"Punjab Police have confirmed that they have duped investors of Rs 15 crore there. In Assam, we have information that they were at least 20 to 25 people who invested in the scheme. Further interrogation will reveal more," he added.
The ponzi scheme operates only through internet to avoid all kinds of legal permissions and regulations.
Investor fraud case: Sahara Group chief Subrata Roy grilled by SEBI over assets

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/investor-fraud-case-sahara-group-chief-subrata-roy-grilled-by-sebi-over-assets/1100353/

PTI : Mumbai, April 10, 2013

Market regulator SEBI today questioned Sahara Group chief Subrata Roy and three other top executives about their assets and investments in connection with the high profile alleged investor fraud case involving refund of an estimated Rs 24,000 crore to over three crore investors.

In their personal appearance that lasted for about one hour, Roy and three other directors of Sahara companies were asked about their personal assets as also those of the companies so that SEBI can proceed with sale of these assets to realise the funds for refund to investors.

SEBI had summoned Roy, Ashok Roy Choudhary, Ravi Shankar Dubey and Vandana Bhargava for a personal appearance before its whole time member Prashant Saran through an order issued on March 26.

After his appearance, Roy told waiting reporters that he was asked about his personal assets which he thought was a point for concern for SEBI.

"My personal assets appear to have troubled SEBI," he said, while adding that most of the investors had been paid back and the remaining money to be refunded was with the market regulator.

Roy said he was asked by SEBI whether he had any assets beyond those declared by him. "I was asked about my personal assets and I told them that I have declared all my assets."

He said that Sahara group was concerned about delay in refund by SEBI and accused the regulator of not having taken any steps for months together to return the money to those investors who have not been refunded as yet.

Sahara chief said SEBI's questions were limited to his personal assets and the regulator was not taking any steps for returning investors' money from Rs 5,120 crore submitted by the group to SEBI.

The group claims that it has already returned a bulk of the total Rs 24,000 crore refund to investors directly and the total outstanding liability was less than Rs 5,120 crore given to SEBI towards investor refund.

MLM IN THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES:

FOR CONYBIO 01, SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/CONYBIO_01.doc

FOR CONYBIO 02-FALUN DAFA, SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/CONYBIO_02-FALUN_DAFA.doc

[do a word search for 'MLM']


FOR BIOCONNED-WATER, MAGNETIC, FAR-INFRA-RED NEW AGE 'WELLNESS' PRODUCTS, SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/BIOCONNED-WATER_MAGNETIC_FAR-INFRA-RED_NEW_AGE_WELLNESS_PRODUCTS.doc

FOR BIO DISC [ANOTHER PRODUCT SOLD BY MLM],

SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/BIO_DISC.doc

FOR AMWAY, SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/AMWAY_MULTI-LEVEL_MARKETING.doc

FOR AMEGA GLOBAL, BIOLIFE™ AND RUDRAANSHA [MORE PRODUCTS SOLD BY MLM],

SEE http://ephesians-511.net/docs/AMEGA_GLOBAL_BIOLIFE_RUDRAANSHA.doc

[AMEGA avoid the MLM term, preferring instead to use "Network Marketing" which amounts to much the same thing.]



MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING HAS BEEN LIKENED TO DIRECT SELLING [ILLEGAL IN CHINA] AND MONEY-CIRCULATION SCHEMES [ILLEGAL IN INDIA] AND HAS BEEN ALSO DESCRIBED AS NETWORK/REFERRAL MARKETING AND PYRAMID SELLING SCHEMES
SOME EXCERPTS ON MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING FROM MY ARTICLE ON AMWAY

With soap in their hands and hope in their hearts Ramjee Chandran 30 April 2002 [REGARDING AMWAY]

http://mlmcrimealert.blogspot.com/2008/02/with-soap-in-their-hands-and-hope-in.html From Economic Crime Watch

Source: http://www.domain-b.com/companies/companies_a/amway_india/20020430_hope.html EXTRACT:

HOW IT WORKS Amway's operations rest on what is called Multi Level Marketing (or MLM). It has been called 'network marketing', 'pyramid selling' (a phrase that inspires vitriol among Amway types).

It has also been compared to a chain letter or the buying of a lottery ticket. How it works is both simple and complicated at the same time. You try and sign up others as fellow Amway distributors. You get commissions on whatever they buy. You also get commissions on the purchases made by the people whom they in turn sign up as Amway distributors. The more people you sign up, the more they will buy. The more they buy, the more money you will make…


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