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  A lawsuit was filed today (November 23rd US time) that could end the secret government that has ruled Western civilization for at least the past 300 years.

 The lawsuit claims that close to $1 trillion was stolen by, among others, UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and the UN, former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the Italian government, Giancarlo Bruno and the Davos World Economic forum and others believed to include many of the owners of the US Federal Reserve Board. The lawsuit was filed in New York by Neil Keenan, acting as representative of the Dragon family, a reclusive group of wealthy Asian families. This filing is the result of extensive evidence gathering by international police and law-enforcement agencies including Interpol, the CIA, the Japanese Security Police, Eastern European secret services and has the backing of the Pentagon as well as the armed forces of Russia and China.

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gilly

11-06-2009, 02:07 PM



TWO JAPANESE CITIZENS CARRYING $134 BILLION WORTH OF UNDECLARED, POSSIBLY COUNTERFEIT U.S. BONDS DETAINED IN ITALY WHILE TRYING TO ENTER SWITZERLAND; ITALIAN AUTHORITIES ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THE BONDS ARE AUTHENTIC
June 11th, 2009
There is a news blackout on this story. Please nail this one to the foreheads of the mainstream financial press until they cover it.

I am requesting an accurate English translation of the press release that was issued by the Guardia Italiana di Finanza (Italian Financial Police) on 4 June 2009 about this incident. If you have the ability to provide all of us with an accurate English translation of this press release, please contact me. Here is a machine translation of the press release.

Lagavulin submitted this Asia News Italy to the Cryptogon Subreddit two days ago. Here is the full text:
06/08/2009 15:18

ASIA – ITALY



US government securities seized from Japanese nationals, not clear whether real or fake Bonds worth US$ 134.5 billion are seized. This is the largest financial smuggling case in history. But are they real? Concern over ‘funny money’ or counterfeit securities is spreading in Asia. The international press is silent.
Milan (AsiaNews) – Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion from two Japanese nationals at Chiasso (40 km from Milan) on the border between Italy and Switzerland. They include 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollar each.
Italian authorities have not yet determined whether they are real or fake, but if they are real the attempt to take them into Switzerland would be the largest financial smuggling operation in history; if they are fake, the matter would be even more mind-boggling because the quality of the counterfeit work is such that the fake bonds are undistinguishable from the real ones.
What caught the policemen’s attention were the billion dollar securities. Such a large denomination is not available in regular financial and banking markets. Only states handle such amounts of money.
The question now is who could or would counterfeit or smuggle these non-negotiable bonds.
In order to stop money laundering Italian law sets a ceiling of 10,000 euros per person for importing or exporting money without declaring it. The penalty for violating the law is 40 per cent of the money seized.

If the certificates were real, for Italy it would be like hitting the jackpot. The fine alone would amount to US$ 38 billion, five times the estimated cost of rebuilding quake-devastated Abruzzi region. It would help Italy’s eliminate its public deficit.

If the certificates are fakes the two Japanese nationals could get a very lengthy jail sentence for fraud.
As soon as the seizure was made the US Embassy in Rome was informed. Italian and US secret services were called in to assist the Italian financial police.
Some important international financial newspapers had already reported on the existence of ‘funny money’ circulating on parallel, i.e. unofficial, financial markets.
For AsiaNews a few points need considering:
1. When it comes to Italy the world press has tended to focus on Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi’s personal problems rather than on stories like the bonds smuggling affair which has been front page on Italian newspapers.
2. The fear of counterfeit bonds and securities has spread across Asia with the result that real securities are also considered with suspicion.
3. During the Second World War several countries at war printed and put in circulation perfectly counterfeit enemy money. It is also historically established that some central banks, like the Bank of Italy 65 years ago, issued the same securities twice (identical registered number and code). This way they could print more money with legal tender than they officially declared. The main difference though is that 65 years ago the world was involved in a bloody war, which is not the case today.
I was not able to find ANY English language translation of this story until today.
This is from Kyodo News Service, reposted on Japan Today:
2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy
Thursday 11th June, 06:18 AM JST
ROME —

Two Japanese nationals were detained by Italian financial police last week after trying to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of undeclared U.S. bonds, mostly Treasury bonds, an Italian daily said Wednesday. The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.

According to the report in il Giornale, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities June 3 when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan. The daily did not say on what charges they have been detained, but the two may have been detained on suspicion of attempting to take a large amount of securities out of Italy without declaring it because the paper said they had not declared the bonds.
Here is the Italian language press release from Guardia Italiana di Finanza (Italian Financial Police) on 4 June 2009:
Sequestrati a Chiasso titoli USA per novantasei miliardi di euro

Milano, 4 giu. (Adnkronos)


Duecentoquarantanove bond della Federal Reserve statunitense, del valore nominale di 500 mln di dollari ciascuno, piu’ 10 bond Kennedy da 1 mld di dollari ciascuno, occultati nel doppio fondo di una valigia, per un totale di ben 134 mld di dollari, pari a oltre 96 mld di euro.
E’ quanto hanno sequestrato alla stazione ferroviaria internazionale di Chiasso, al confine tra Svizzera e Italia, funzionari della Sezione Operativa Territoriale di Chiasso, in collaborazione con i militari della Guardia di Finanza del Gruppo di Ponte Chiasso, nel corso dei controlli volti al contrasto del traffico illecito di capitali.

I valori erano posseduti da due cinquantenni giapponesi scesi alla stazione ferroviaria di Chiasso da un treno proveniente dall’Italia che, al momento del controllo doganale, hanno sostenuto di non avere nulla da dichiarare.

Un’accurata verifica dei bagagli ha consentito invece di trovare i titoli Usa, occultati sul fondo di una valigia, in uno scomparto chiuso e separato da quello contenente gli indumenti personali.
Oltre ai titoli, i due giapponesi trasportavano una cospicua documentazione bancaria in originale.
Per i bond e la documentazione che li accompagnava, anch’essa sottoposta a sequestro, sono in corso indagini volte a stabilirne autenticita’ e provenienza. Qualora i titoli risultassero autentici, in base alla vigente normativa, la sanzione amministrativa applicabile ai possessori potrebbe raggiungere i 38 miliardi di euro, pari al 40% della somma eccedente la franchigia ammessa di 10mila euro.

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yozhik

11-06-2009, 02:40 PM



The penalty for violating the law is 40 per cent of the money seized.
If the certificates were real, for Italy it would be like hitting the jackpot. The fine alone would amount to US$ 38 billion, five times the estimated cost of rebuilding quake-devastated Abruzzi region. It would help Italy’s eliminate its public deficit.
Piracy on the open seas of commerce ... :rolleyes:

Such a large denomination is not available in regular financial and banking markets. Only states handle such amounts of money.


Is the reason for silence due to possible diplomatic immunity?

real6

11-06-2009, 03:19 PM

TWO JAPANESE CITIZENS CARRYING $134 BILLION WORTH OF UNDECLARED, POSSIBLY COUNTERFEIT U.S. BONDS DETAINED IN ITALY WHILE TRYING TO ENTER SWITZERLAND; ITALIAN AUTHORITIES ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THE BONDS ARE AUTHENTIC

June 11th, 2009
There is a news blackout on this story. Please nail this one to the foreheads of the mainstream financial press until they cover it.
I am requesting an accurate English translation of the press release that was issued by the Guardia Italiana di Finanza (Italian Financial Police) on 4 June 2009 about this incident. If you have the ability to provide all of us with an accurate English translation of this press release, please contact me. Here is a machine translation of the press release.
Lagavulin submitted this Asia News Italy to the Cryptogon Subreddit two days ago. Here is the full text:
06/08/2009 15:18

ASIA – ITALY



US government securities seized from Japanese nationals, not clear whether real or fake Bonds worth US$ 134.5 billion are seized. This is the largest financial smuggling case in history. But are they real? Concern over ‘funny money’ or counterfeit securities is spreading in Asia. The international press is silent.
Milan (AsiaNews) – Italy’s financial police (Guardia italiana di Finanza) has seized US bonds worth US 134.5 billion from two Japanese nationals at Chiasso (40 km from Milan) on the border between Italy and Switzerland. They include 249 US Federal Reserve bonds worth US$ 500 million each, plus ten Kennedy bonds and other US government securities worth a billion dollar each.
Italian authorities have not yet determined whether they are real or fake, but if they are real the attempt to take them into Switzerland would be the largest financial smuggling operation in history; if they are fake, the matter would be even more mind-boggling because the quality of the counterfeit work is such that the fake bonds are undistinguishable from the real ones.

What caught the policemen’s attention were the billion dollar securities. Such a large denomination is not available in regular financial and banking markets. Only states handle such amounts of money.

The question now is who could or would counterfeit or smuggle these non-negotiable bonds.
In order to stop money laundering Italian law sets a ceiling of 10,000 euros per person for importing or exporting money without declaring it. The penalty for violating the law is 40 per cent of the money seized.
If the certificates were real, for Italy it would be like hitting the jackpot. The fine alone would amount to US$ 38 billion, five times the estimated cost of rebuilding quake-devastated Abruzzi region. It would help Italy’s eliminate its public deficit.
If the certificates are fakes the two Japanese nationals could get a very lengthy jail sentence for fraud.
As soon as the seizure was made the US Embassy in Rome was informed. Italian and US secret services were called in to assist the Italian financial police.
Some important international financial newspapers had already reported on the existence of ‘funny money’ circulating on parallel, i.e. unofficial, financial markets.
For AsiaNews a few points need considering:
1. When it comes to Italy the world press has tended to focus on Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi’s personal problems rather than on stories like the bonds smuggling affair which has been front page on Italian newspapers.
2. The fear of counterfeit bonds and securities has spread across Asia with the result that real securities are also considered with suspicion.

3. During the Second World War several countries at war printed and put in circulation perfectly counterfeit enemy money. It is also historically established that some central banks, like the Bank of Italy 65 years ago, issued the same securities twice (identical registered number and code). This way they could print more money with legal tender than they officially declared. The main difference though is that 65 years ago the world was involved in a bloody war, which is not the case today.

I was not able to find ANY English language translation of this story until today.
This is from Kyodo News Service, reposted on Japan Today:
2 Japanese carrying $134 bil worth of U.S. bonds detained in Italy
Thursday 11th June, 06:18 AM JST
ROME —
Two Japanese nationals were detained by Italian financial police last week after trying to enter Switzerland with $134 billion worth of undeclared U.S. bonds, mostly Treasury bonds, an Italian daily said Wednesday. The Japanese consulate general in Milan confirmed that the detention had taken place and said it was trying to confirm with Italian authorities whether the two were indeed Japanese nationals and their identities.
According to the report in il Giornale, two unidentified Japanese in their 50s concealed the bonds, including 249 U.S. Treasury bonds each worth $500 million, in a suitcase with a false bottom that was searched by the Italian authorities June 3 when they were in Chiasso, at the border with Switzerland, about 50 kilometers north of Milan. The daily did not say on what charges they have been detained, but the two may have been detained on suspicion of attempting to take a large amount of securities out of Italy without declaring it because the paper said they had not declared the bonds.
Here is the Italian language press release from Guardia Italiana di Finanza (Italian Financial Police) on 4 June 2009:
Sequestrati a Chiasso titoli USA per novantasei miliardi di euro

Milano, 4 giu. (Adnkronos)

Duecentoquarantanove bond della Federal Reserve statunitense, del valore nominale di 500 mln di dollari ciascuno, piu’ 10 bond Kennedy da 1 mld di dollari ciascuno, occultati nel doppio fondo di una valigia, per un totale di ben 134 mld di dollari, pari a oltre 96 mld di euro.

E’ quanto hanno sequestrato alla stazione ferroviaria internazionale di Chiasso, al confine tra Svizzera e Italia, funzionari della Sezione Operativa Territoriale di Chiasso, in collaborazione con i militari della Guardia di Finanza del Gruppo di Ponte Chiasso, nel corso dei controlli volti al contrasto del traffico illecito di capitali.
I valori erano posseduti da due cinquantenni giapponesi scesi alla stazione ferroviaria di Chiasso da un treno proveniente dall’Italia che, al momento del controllo doganale, hanno sostenuto di non avere nulla da dichiarare.
Un’accurata verifica dei bagagli ha consentito invece di trovare i titoli Usa, occultati sul fondo di una valigia, in uno scomparto chiuso e separato da quello contenente gli indumenti personali.
Oltre ai titoli, i due giapponesi trasportavano una cospicua documentazione bancaria in originale.
Per i bond e la documentazione che li accompagnava, anch’essa sottoposta a sequestro, sono in corso indagini volte a stabilirne autenticita’ e provenienza. Qualora i titoli risultassero autentici, in base alla vigente normativa, la sanzione amministrativa applicabile ai possessori potrebbe raggiungere i 38 miliardi di euro, pari al 40% della somma eccedente la franchigia ammessa di 10mila euro.
Well it is their business. Leave them alone!!!

yozhik


11-06-2009, 03:35 PM

Here is the most interesting issue ...


Italian authorities have not yet determined whether they are real or fake.
If they are fake, the matter would be even more mind-boggling because the quality of the counterfeit work is such that the fake bonds are undistinguishable from the real ones.
It is also historically established that some central banks issued the same securities twice (identical registered number and code). This way they could print more money with legal tender than they officially declared.

We need to read this and fully understand the implications of it.

The bonds are in denominations only relevant to transactions at state level.

The bonds are US bonds.

If they are fake; it implicates the Fed in state level counterfeit and points to manipulation of money supply.

breezinreezin

11-06-2009, 03:49 PM

If somebody works it all out, could they translate it all into noddy language for me. I'm crap with anything financial.

decim

11-06-2009, 04:04 PM



A japanese war chest?

decim


11-06-2009, 06:41 PM

Home land security issue?


http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/tag/us-bonds/

spiraltrance

11-06-2009, 06:51 PM

:eek:
you have urls for the original story?

decim

11-06-2009, 06:55 PM



:eek:
you have urls for the original story?
http://www.gdf.it/gdf__informa/notizie_stampa/adnkronos/adnkronos_2009/adnkronos_giugno_2009/info-1518911049.html

http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/2-japanese-carrying-134-bil-worth-of-us-bonds-detained-in-italy

spiraltrance

11-06-2009, 07:30 PM

Thanks ^

gilly


11-06-2009, 07:34 PM

:eek:
you have urls for the original story?


Sorry - edited OP too add link. :o

yozhik


11-06-2009, 07:50 PM

If somebody works it all out, could they translate it all into noddy language for me. I'm crap with anything financial.


Bonds are issued by Treasury and used to raise money supply.

They are a debt.

So if a country needs 100 million, they can issue government bonds to the value of the 100 million, and then auction them.

Typical bond might be a 5 year government bond, with a yield of 4% p.a (hypothetical)
This means that the holder of the bond (whoever bought it at the auction) will be given the 4% interest each year as the dividend and then the value of the bond at the end of the 5 year period.
What this does is effectively increase the money supply ... which then impacts on a whole lot of financial matters ... inflation, foreign exchange rates, etc, etc
Now ... if the central bank has issued FAKE bonds, by duplicating the serial numbers et al ... then it means it is hiding the true number for money supply.
It is fraud at country level.
It means that there are two (or more) bonds with the same serial numbers.

This would double the actual money supply than the official figure.


Again, hypothetically ... if the US has issued fake bonds through the central bank, then it means the debt is actually greater than being reported.
This would greatly impact on the true value of the dollar.

Also the risk of default on those bonds.

Ian2day

11-06-2009, 08:47 PM



Bonds are issued by Treasury and used to raise money supply.

They are a debt.


So if a country needs 100 million, they can issue government bonds to the value of the 100 million, and then auction them.
Typical bond might be a 5 year government bond, with a yield of 4% p.a (hypothetical)
This means that the holder of the bond (whoever bought it at the auction) will be given the 4% interest each year as the dividend and then the value of the bond at the end of the 5 year period.

What this does is effectively increase the money supply ... which then impacts on a whole lot of financial matters ... inflation, foreign exchange rates, etc, etc

Now ... if the central bank has issued FAKE bonds, by duplicating the serial numbers et al ... then it means it is hiding the true number for money supply.
It is fraud at country level.
It means that there are two (or more) bonds with the same serial numbers.

This would double the actual money supply than the official figure.


Again, hypothetically ... if the US has issued fake bonds through the central bank, then it means the debt is actually greater than being reported.
This would greatly impact on the true value of the dollar.

Also the risk of default on those bonds.


So in other words an official from within the fed has decided to fleece as much as they can for personal gain. Hiding behind their job to CON the mark in this Sting. The higher up that someone is the bigger the scam they're trying to pull. We're awash with revelations of huge fraud at the moment in the media. tptb deffinitely want the public to riot.

yozhik


11-06-2009, 09:02 PM

So in other words an official from within the fed has decided to fleece as much as they can for personal gain. Hiding behind their job to CON the mark in this Sting. The higher up that someone is the bigger the scam they're trying to pull. We're awash with revelations of huge fraud at the moment in the media. tptb deffinitely want the public to riot.


No.
An "official at the Fed" would not have the authority to do this.

If true, it is an executive decision.


Auction for USD$100,000,000 (hypothetically)

Issue USD $50,000,000 in duplicated government bonds.


$100,000,000 into treasury coffers ... only $50,000,000 registered into public debt/money supply.

Basically it is "cooking the books" at the highest level.

This would need to be at the "Bernanke and Geithner" seniority.

yozhik

11-06-2009, 11:10 PM



Have just come across a very interesting point regarding this;
In order to stop money laundering Italian law sets a ceiling of 10,000 euros per person for importing or exporting money without declaring it. The penalty for violating the law is 40 per cent of the money seized.

Technically, Treasury Bonds are not "money".




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